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fordy said:
mii-gamer said:
iamdeath said:

Over platinum games?? I doubt anyone even cares.


did you not see the meltdowns when bayonetta 2 was made a Wii U exclusive.? It was the funniest shit ever - the whole intranetz exploded over a francise that only sold 2 million. I think many people care. Maybe you won't but i can guarantee there will be one ass hurt comment that will make my day. 

Only 2 million? There were more people whinging about the move than ones who bought the original game!

Well because a lot of people do not want Nintendo to have good things



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ListerOfSmeg said:
"Nintendo needs new Ips"
"OMG W101 bombed worldwide based on sales in 1 region."
Clearly the only reason you ask for new Ips is to troll their sales numbers.
Why people calling it a bomb aren't being banned for trolling is beyond me.
Its clearly against the rules to act like 1 regions sales are worldwide sales because tis a comment made with no basis or merit.

What the?



Max King of the Wild said:
After the performance of W101 and soon to be Bayonetta will Nintendo be interested?

Bayonetta will not flop like W101. It's a IP of known quality, it doesn't have an identity crisis like W101 did, and it will be launching to a considerably larger Wii U install base.



curl-6 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
After the performance of W101 and soon to be Bayonetta will Nintendo be interested?

Bayonetta will not flop like W101. It's a IP of known quality, it doesn't have an identity crisis like W101 did, and it will be launching to a considerably larger Wii U install base.

I don't know what you would say a "considerably lager user base is" but I certainly wouldn't classify it as that. Anyway, Bayonetta 2 may not flop like W101 will but I really doubt it will be able to break even. Sequel on a manufacturers system who didn't get the first. With a manufacturer that doesn't particularly sell M rated games as well as competition and launching with a small user base (even if it is "considerably larger" it's still small). I mean Bayonetta was a flop in a financial sense. Maybe not a flop in a sales sense but it also certainly wasn't a success so I disagree that it is of "known quality" considering the fanbase it is selling to isn't one that are into playing these types of games or would have been able to play considering it wasn't on a Nintendo platform and it didn't really sell to the fanbase it did launch on.

In summary, Bayonetta will definitly flop in the financial sense. It will sell more then W101 and might be able to put up some okay numbers but definitly nothing impressive.



Max King of the Wild said:
curl-6 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
After the performance of W101 and soon to be Bayonetta will Nintendo be interested?

Bayonetta will not flop like W101. It's a IP of known quality, it doesn't have an identity crisis like W101 did, and it will be launching to a considerably larger Wii U install base.

I don't know what you would say a "considerably lager user base is" but I certainly wouldn't classify it as that. Anyway, Bayonetta 2 may not flop like W101 will but I really doubt it will be able to break even. Sequel on a manufacturers system who didn't get the first. With a manufacturer that doesn't particularly sell M rated games as well as competition and launching with a small user base (even if it is "considerably larger" it's still small). I mean Bayonetta was a flop in a financial sense. Maybe not a flop in a sales sense but it also certainly wasn't a success so I disagree that it is of "known quality" considering the fanbase it is selling to isn't one that are into playing these types of games or would have been able to play considering it wasn't on a Nintendo platform and it didn't really sell to the fanbase it did launch on.

In summary, Bayonetta will definitly flop in the financial sense. It will sell more then W101 and might be able to put up some okay numbers but definitly nothing impressive.

People don't have to have played the first Bayonetta to know it was highly regarded and loved, and for that to motivate their purchase. Hype and word of mouth are powerful tools. People buy the sequels to games they didn't play all the time because they "heard" the original was great.

As to the financial issue, Bayo 2's budget is unknown at present, so we do't even know how much it would need to sell to break even.

From a pure sales perspective, however, while it may not be a multi-million seller, it's pretty safe to assume it will easily outsell W101.



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outlawauron said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
"Nintendo needs new Ips"
"OMG W101 bombed worldwide based on sales in 1 region."
Clearly the only reason you ask for new Ips is to troll their sales numbers.
Why people calling it a bomb aren't being banned for trolling is beyond me.
Its clearly against the rules to act like 1 regions sales are worldwide sales because tis a comment made with no basis or merit.


lolwut

People are calling it a bomb because it sold horribly and will not make its budget back. I don't think anyone expected to do super well (there's a VGC prediction thread), but it's done much worse than most would have thought.

rofl.

dude.

it's been out for 1 week in 1 country, get real.



MohammadBadir said:
outlawauron said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
"Nintendo needs new Ips"
"OMG W101 bombed worldwide based on sales in 1 region."
Clearly the only reason you ask for new Ips is to troll their sales numbers.
Why people calling it a bomb aren't being banned for trolling is beyond me.
Its clearly against the rules to act like 1 regions sales are worldwide sales because tis a comment made with no basis or merit.


lolwut

People are calling it a bomb because it sold horribly and will not make its budget back. I don't think anyone expected to do super well (there's a VGC prediction thread), but it's done much worse than most would have thought.

rofl.

dude.

it's been out for 1 week in 1 country, get real.

MohammadBadir picking a great recovery for Wonderful 101?



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If they both want this to happen, then go for it. I am not a fan of their games and havent played a single one of theirs that I can remember but if both want it and clearly they have a very good relationship, then they really should be joining. I would say the same for MS and its close 2nd party studios (like Mistwalker) and Sony have already done this with Media Molecule and Sucker Punch.



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Kamiya didn't actually say that precisely. He was asked how he would feel about it, and he said it would be great. He did not say "I want to do it". He may have just been being nice. Or he may mean that he'd love it. But the OP title is a bit misleading. Still, I think it would be in both companies interest to do so, for sure.

 

@fauzman

Mistwalker did act somewhat as a second party to for awhile. But they worked with Nintendo most recently, and what little indications there are of whatever they're working on now, point to it again being a Nintendo system project.

But as for Platinum, I think between their Clover days and now, they've made a lot of great stuff. I don't like EVERYTHING they've ever done, for example I really wasn't into God Hand, or MadWorld, or Bayonetta at all. But Viewtiful Joe was a neat throwback beat em up, Okami was amazing, and Wonderful 101 looks cool, and was fun from what little the demo showed me.



outlawauron said:
MohammadBadir said:
outlawauron said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
"Nintendo needs new Ips"
"OMG W101 bombed worldwide based on sales in 1 region."
Clearly the only reason you ask for new Ips is to troll their sales numbers.
Why people calling it a bomb aren't being banned for trolling is beyond me.
Its clearly against the rules to act like 1 regions sales are worldwide sales because tis a comment made with no basis or merit.


lolwut

People are calling it a bomb because it sold horribly and will not make its budget back. I don't think anyone expected to do super well (there's a VGC prediction thread), but it's done much worse than most would have thought.

rofl.

dude.

it's been out for 1 week in 1 country, get real.

MohammadBadir picking a great recovery for Wonderful 101?


when did i say that? i'm just saying it won't sell 10k lifetime like some of you guys are implying.