S.T.A.G.E. said:
enrageorange said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
okr said:
Because without Kinect 2.0 it would rival PS4 as the most boring, most predictable next-gen console. |
Why does everyone forget that the PSEye is optional with the Move? The Xbox and Playstation have been at parity in offerings since the Xbox was created. They have a tug of war over services and peripherals because MS is going after the same crowd Sony commanded.
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The kinect and move were invented to compete with the wii remote. Simple as that. Microsoft had already succeeded in taking a significant chunk of sony's crowd prior to the kinect launch. Though they could lose them again this coming generation.
Anyway for the thread question, the 360 kinect has already proven that kinect can sell fine on it's own. Bundled or not 25million people payed at least $100 extra for the kinect device than they would have if they chose to skip it. What that means is that microsoft is risking losing potential sales by people who are admanent about not wanting kinect or want the cheapest console just to foster more innovation on the platform. Basically Microsoft wants to bundle the kinect with every single xbox so the userbase doesn't get fragmented. Short term it will probably hurt sales. But the long term goal is for xbone owners to view the kinect as something that is vital for the system and that will only happen if more developers are willing to innovatively incorperate the kinect.
Imagine if when the nintendo ds came out, there was a cheaper model that didn't have a touch screen. Games that just use the touch screen for inventory management and such would hardly be affected. But games that make extensive use of the touch screen like warioware, brain age, World ends with you, professor layton, elite beat agents, etc. would have probably never come out or been completely different. Add on prepherials are an increased risk to develop for because they decrease the pool of potential buyers for your game.
Personally the original kinect never impressed me and I would have loved for it to have been a huge failure that microsoft swept under the rug. But that isn't what happened. So if there must be a new kinect, it just makes sense to bundle it with every xbox. Because that is the best way for the kinect to be an attractive platform to develop real games for. That is why I wish sony bundled the move with all playstation 4's. I think the move works well with the games I've tried, but being a seperate addon almost guarantees that only first party games will make good use of it.
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The Kinect and Move were created to combat the Wii? Yes to the Kinect, for sure. The Eyetoy existed two years before the Wii ever came out, so technically Sony wasn't copying Nintendo, but rather upgrading their product for the next generation. Microsoft took Sonys seconds when they bought Primesense, whom Sony had turned down because they had no answer for tracking 1:1 in a 3D realm without making your games seem like a simple minigame. Sony had been developing the Move since 2004, but the Wii helped influence their industrial design decisions for the secondary camera tracked peripheral. The vid doc is up on Youtube.
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@ bolded: No, Sony had prototypes of different motion controls but could not think of a way to do anything with it until Nintendo showed them what to do. Do you know you can go back to 1994 and there is a video form MS labs with motion controls similar to the Wii and Move. It does not matter if a company researched something if they could not bring it to market. Sony could not visualize the pontential of the product unitl Nintendo showed them the way, then they scrambled to provide an answer. This is why companies that take the risk and become successful, reap the rewards.
As for Sony turning down primesense, same situation. Sony might have had prototypes with motion hands free controls but could not figure out a way to bring it to market so it was left on the R&D floor. Does this mean the technology was not sound, NO. It means Sony did not have the people, technology or vision to make it happen. For a company that has turned down motion hands free gaming, it appears Sony got their grove back with the PS4eye and now is touting they can do hands free. I do enjoy the move for the games I used it for but lets not kid ourselves that Sony does not make moves because a competitor has a popular product. Lets not kid ourselves that all these companies will say anything to deflect a popular product by a competitor but then the next moment they get a chance, they are adding that part they dismissed like no one remember their previous statements (rumble, hands free gaming).
