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Which game will be the first to have 2 Gamepads functionality?

Mario Kart 8 35 20.59%
 
Super Smash Bros. 7 4.12%
 
Super Mario 3D World 3 1.76%
 
Some other unreleased or unnanounced game 70 41.18%
 
Some already released game 2 1.18%
 
Never 48 28.24%
 
See results 5 2.94%
 
Total:170
oniyide on 25 August 2013
archbrix said:
oniyide said:
I dont trust Fils-Aime as far as I can throw him, same with Reggie. Theyve flipflopped to many times on the whole WIi U since inception, ill believe it when I see it and if I see eat ill eat crow with a glass of Pepsi

 

Um... I assume the second person you're referring to here is Pachter, since Fils-aime is Reggie...

And you can take Pachter completely out of the equation (he was just the one speaking in that link) because Reggie confirmed it himself at E3 2012. If you choose not to believe him, that's your choice. I know Reggie has stated things in the past like WiiU's COD running superior to other versions, but that's more marketing bs than confirming that the console can achieve a specific function, so we'll see I guess.

 

"You're not thinking outside the box. Streaming a full, graphic-intensive game to two Gamepads while simultaneously displaying on the TV is almost certainly not in the cards" This function is what im talking about in terms of multipad support, if they cant do that, then the whole thing IMHO is halfassed. Even your simpler tasks thing is not going to work for the reasons you already listed. Hell by the time is does get cheap enough to do something like that, alot of time might have passed, and will people honestly give  a crap by then? I seriously doubt it. 

Nothing Ninty has put out has been graphically intensive, why couldnt nintylandsupport two controllers? NSMB?

You make it sound as if the WiiU is coming up on its last year on the market. The system is not even close to the market penetration it will be at two years from now and the price isn't even officially $299 yet for the deluxe model, much less $199. Why would people not care in the future if Nintendo does indeed back up their two-gamepad functionality with good software?

Regarding Nintendoland, again the answer is most likely the high price of the Gamepad (especially at launch). Miyamoto had talked about the idea of a friend just bringing over their own Gamepad for multiplayer, but people without that luxury who would just want to purchase a second one would find themselves spending an addition $150 or so. It's much better not to implement these features for the launch software because of the prohibitively high cost of the extra peripheral and NSMB wouldn't benefit from the extra Gamepad. 

Forget Reggie's last name. I messed up, but my point stands. i never trusted anything his says unless it comes from the mouth of someone who has actually involved the making of the system...and even then. 

No what i meant by the time they get to that point if they even do, it will not be new and it wont have much of an impact. Cause people might have gotten tired of waiting.

SO its too expensive to sell on its own, fair enough. Thats no excuse to not have the system itself utilize two ESPECIALLY if someone who owns a WIi U can just take the tablet to a friend's house and use it their. Its not a luxury its common sense, I can take my PS3 controller and Wiimote and use it on my friends PS3 or Wii why cant I do that with the gamepad? makes no sense, not even use the functions just use it as an actually controller, IMHO this sends the wrong message.



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FromDK on 25 August 2013
NoirSon said:
FromDK said:
oniyide said:
FromDK said:
oniyide said:
PigPen said:

If you're going to reply tell me something I don't know. You don't think I know the Wii U comes with one gamepad. Nintendo can sell a separate gamepad in stores.


never said you didnt know that. Ninty can sell what they want, but it dont mean nothing if the system itself cant support two gamepads. The fact that they dont sell it separately tells me it must be expensive on its own, would love to see how they market a controller that cost close to 100 bucks

No that tells you that nintendo don't want consumers to think they can use it with wii.. Think of them casuals, who thought it was.. After this cristmas it will no longer be a problem, people will know.. :)

Ont.. i think mariokart will support it.. but not like a tablet controller (or also).. I'm pretty sure Nintendo will make a headversion of the upad..

Meaning.. Mariokart bundlet with a headversion of the upad (cheapper becurse it will not need buttons or touch) giving us true VR.

If they did.. it will make perfect sense to support 2 players (headversion of upad)  and others can watch.. or even join the game on tv..

(i think that why the new zelda also supports playing in first person.. and i think Bawl will support it to..  :)


nope, what NoirSon said makes a lot more sense, their not selling two pads because of confusion and basically the SYSTEM itself cannot support two. If it could they would have had games supporting it already. Mario Kart8 is not gonna support nothing, its coming out too soon for Ninty to have to do anything about it. I dont even think a firmware update could deal with this, it would have to massive.


Nintendo said it could.. and why not..

Do you think it's that more complex.. and so much more power.. to send 2 spilscreen image to the upad (instead of the tv) and u do know that one of the launch games (call of duty) run perfect 2 player on tv and upad.. and that is a big game (complex).. easy and  almost whitout any optimization  .. (meaning i'm pretty sure the wii-u hardware can handle it)  AND NINTENDO HAD VERIFIED IT...

Yet, Nintendo has yet to show it.

I mean, sure you can play 2 player multiplayer with the tv and GamePad but the amount of strain necessary to have multiplayer on two seperate GamePads and a TV? Maybe it is possible but how much can it run at the same constant graphical frame rate that Nintendo has put stock in their games running at whether on the GamePad or TV with the Wii U? Or another 2 GamePad situation could have been two players checking the internet and Miiverse separately on a paused game. Does the Wii U's current performance look like it is built to handle that many things at once?

Heck, if it was possible, why hasn't a Indie developer or one of Nintendo's smaller studios done it with even lower graphical heavy digital only release? Its a combination of things no doubt including not wanting to confuse the more gaming illiterate but if Nintendo could have pulled extra money selling the GamePad, I don't think they'd leave that on the table just to make things simpler for soccer moms. Shoot, even taking that into account, why not allow it to work when friends bring over their own GamePads and try to play games with that.There are more benefits and potential gaming experiences with using 2 GamePads for local multiplayer then just one and unless Nintendo really has fall off they should know this.

I mean maybe down but given all the evidence to the contrary, including the RAM in the Wii U itself with half being dedicated to the OS alone, I can't see it being as easy as Nintendo said, especially if they won't make games that use the feature on a system where the controller was meant to be a major selling point.


Nintendo has yet to show it.. yes.:)

But remember when nintendo was asked about this.. they said: Yes it does support 2 upad.. but we have no games planed for it right now..

That means.. Yes it can "handle" to send pictures to two upads at ones (not anything about framerate or if the tv only clones the picture. that we have to see) but YES there is "Steampower" to do it.. and again.. even the wii could handle 4 wiimotes/nunchuk and 4 player splitscreen mariokart..

Indie developer will have to wait until Nintendo "roll" it out.. and also see how many nintendo can convience to bye the secend upad... or headset :)

Last.. The half of the ram been dedicated for the os: 

Nintendo had put a limit now.. but they will optimize the system (like i think ps3 did) and they can suspend part of it.. use more rams.. be sure some big AAA in the future will get acces to more ram..



NoirSon on 25 August 2013

@FromDK: You seem to have a high opinion of what Nintendo 'says', but frankly I think it is misplaced to a degree.

They also said they had 'great' ideas for the Wii heart monitor accessories. Nothing came out of that.

They also said after the 3DS disaster they LEARNED their lesson about software and won't repeat that mistake with the Wii U... yeah.

Nintendo is a corporation that wants money and to look good. They won't out right admit that their system is too weak or they failed to prepare it to handle more then one GamePad, but just because they don't it doesn't mean that isn't the case. Granted nor does it mean that it is true but the fact is with one of their systems suffering as badly as any since the Virtual Boy, actions or lack of actions speak a whole lot more then words.

Wonderful 101 has a multiplayer mode, wouldn't that have worked a lot better with a second GamePad instead of Wii remotes and classic controllers?



fordy on 25 August 2013

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archbrix on 25 August 2013
oniyide said:

Forget Reggie's last name. I messed up, but my point stands. i never trusted anything his says unless it comes from the mouth of someone who has actually involved the making of the system...and even then. 

  Again, that's your prerogative. I guess time will tell if he was lying or not.

 

No what i meant by the time they get to that point if they even do, it will not be new and it wont have much of an impact. Cause people might have gotten tired of waiting.

Only a vast minority of people (at the moment anyway) are basing their WiiU purchase on the promise of two-gamepad play, so they're not really waiting to begin with.

 

SO its too expensive to sell on its own, fair enough. Thats no excuse to not have the system itself utilize two ESPECIALLY if someone who owns a WIi U can just take the tablet to a friend's house and use it their. Its not a luxury its common sense, I can take my PS3 controller and Wiimote and use it on my friends PS3 or Wii why cant I do that with the gamepad? makes no sense, not even use the functions just use it as an actually controller, IMHO this sends the wrong message.

The problem is that Nintendo would be designing features in the game with the assumption that either the buyer has a friend that also has a WiiU or doesn't mind spending an additional $150 for these features just to support two players.

To put it into perspective, the way Nintendoland launched you can spend the same amount of money for four Wii Remotes and have a total of five players as opposed to one additional Gamepad for only two players for the same price.


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curl-6 on 25 August 2013

I they were smart, they'd allow 2 Gamepads for 6 payer local splitscreen in Mario Kart 8.



kljesta64 on 25 August 2013

when the game that uses two gamepads is finished.



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oniyide on 25 August 2013
archbrix said:
oniyide said:

Forget Reggie's last name. I messed up, but my point stands. i never trusted anything his says unless it comes from the mouth of someone who has actually involved the making of the system...and even then. 

  Again, that's your prerogative. I guess time will tell if he was lying or not.

 

No what i meant by the time they get to that point if they even do, it will not be new and it wont have much of an impact. Cause people might have gotten tired of waiting.

Only a vast minority of people (at the moment anyway) are basing their WiiU purchase on the promise of two-gamepad play, so they're not really waiting to begin with.

 

SO its too expensive to sell on its own, fair enough. Thats no excuse to not have the system itself utilize two ESPECIALLY if someone who owns a WIi U can just take the tablet to a friend's house and use it their. Its not a luxury its common sense, I can take my PS3 controller and Wiimote and use it on my friends PS3 or Wii why cant I do that with the gamepad? makes no sense, not even use the functions just use it as an actually controller, IMHO this sends the wrong message.

The problem is that Nintendo would be designing features in the game with the assumption that either the buyer has a friend that also has a WiiU or doesn't mind spending an additional $150 for these features just to support two players.

To put it into perspective, the way Nintendoland launched you can spend the same amount of money for four Wii Remotes and have a total of five players as opposed to one additional Gamepad for only two players for the same price.

i think you are really underestimating the value of a local multiplayer experience. Imagine if teh original Wii could only use ONE wiimote, i dont think the Wii would have done nearly as well. BUt then again you cant be to sure its NOT having an effect on sales, but neither can I.

 

Yes you can just get four wiimotes, then whats the point? Why not just stick to Wii? Im sure that is question that alot of people are asking and id bet alot of them are doing just that.



Zappykins on 25 August 2013
zorg1000 said:
Wii Sports U, they will have it bundled with a Gamepad for $99

I think you have made a smart prediction.  Like 'Wii Play' they will make a (possibly) crappy two player game, just to sell the extra tablet.  It would be a reason you would need an extra table for the game.

But since they haven't shown a two player game - and I think that's what this years E3 should have had, do we know if they are really going to make one?  Seems like they designed the WiiU specifically for one Tablet.  And only responded with the option after the public outcry and disappointment.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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ListerOfSmeg on 25 August 2013
Signalstar said:

We have known about the Wii U since 2011 and Nintendo (correct me if I'm wrong) has yet to show off a game that uses more than one Gamepad despite announcing that two will be supported at last year's E3. Did Nintendo lie? Have they not worked out the functionality properly yet? Or are they just waiting for the right game to show it off?

Everyone was so concerned about this question before Nintendo cleared it up but since then we have heard nothing. I blame the gaming press for not asking the question more often. Asymmetric gameplay is fine and all but you know what is even better? Symmetric gameplay. I think showing off games with more than one gamepad would boost the system's profile. Selling additional controllers probably adds a nice amount of spending to a console's ecosystem and Nintendo is largely missing out on that with the Wii U (aside from the Pro controller).

When will we see two Gamepads playing at the same time? When Super Mario 3D World releases? Mario Kart 8? Super Smash Bros? Ever?


Yes Nintendo clearly lied because it doesnt take a year to release a game made completely from scratch...