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Adinnieken on 25 July 2013
theprof00 said:
eh, playstation honchos said that they wouldn't be taking a major loss on ps4, implying that they WOULD be taking at least some kind of loss.
When you look at the specs, there's not a whole lot that's more expensive in the box, possibly 40-50$ more for the ram, better gpu/cpu, better bluray drive.
So if Sony is going to be losing in the range of 50-100$ per console, actually costing 450-500$, and the equal components are 50-100$ more than xb1, then that would mean that xb1 without the kinect 2 would be costing roughly 450-500$, meaning either losing 50 or breaking even.
It all depends how much kinect is costing them.
To make it relative, the kinect sdk, which includes one beta kinect and one full kinect, is 500$...so it's likely costing ms between 70-150$ per unit.

The Kinect 2 for Windows beta is $399, and essentially you're getting a beta Kinect 2 AND the final release version.  Microsoft generally only has you return stuff IF you fail to live up to your obligations (i.e. the NDA).



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psrock on 25 July 2013

They would finish second



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Puppyroach on 25 July 2013

Hi! I am new to this forum (but I have followed the site for some years). If the X1 was reduced in price it would probably mean that a few more non-hardcore XBox/PS4-fans would try it out. Those of us that prefer XBox will buy it nonetheless. In the end though, I do not think it would make much difference, since MS often promote their consoles with other incentives than just price.



S.T.A.G.E. on 25 July 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Hypothetically, it would sell more. Problem is MS isn't willing to risk the fact that the Kinect 2.0 might not naturally catch on with the gamer and casuals the second time around without force. They are forcing the experience upon you because they must protect the investment.

It goes like this:

Essentially you can buy a PS4 and two games for around the cost of the Xbone by itself.

Why does Nintendo bundle a tablet with Wii U? Its not because they're afraid people won't buy it, its because they wanted something that made their platform unique.

Kinect makes the Xbox One a unique platform and bundling it with all consoles encourages developers to take advantage of it.

To make up for the price difference MS really should bundle it a game. That would be much cheaper than doing a price cut.


They thought the Wii U would bring people towards them since the tablet market is growing at a rapid pace but failed to see that videogames only have a finite amount of use to them. They don't need it. The Wii was simple, a quick gimmick to enjoy with the family. The Kinect fed off the residue of that crowd which is why MS ctoninues to believe in the value that isnt no longer really there for the mass market. They are protecting an investment that is powerful but can only do so much when it comes to games and Sony pointed this out long ago no matter how hard they try.

The Kinect does not make the Xbone unique. The Playstation has been using the same device for the longest. The problem you're not seeing is MS got the mass market credit for something Sony started earlier and already dried up the value of. 

MS if forcing Kinect down peoples throats and you know it. They are just protecting their investment. Xbox fanatics will buy it, plain and simple. Let them have it. I will have it if I get my Xbone later on. Its still a very attractive item which represents the American gamer (and I am not even sure they will win over all of those gamers back, the multiplat gamers are jumping back to Sony for sure in America).

P.S.

When this gen first started I and many others said that you could buy a 360 and a Wii for the price of a PS3 and that was true. Today I am saying the Playstation can be purchased with two games of your choice for just about the same price as an Xbone. Its a direct advantage, especially for gamers who care not for exclusives. They have any two games of their chosing and a more powerful console at a cheaper price.



gooch_destroyer on 25 July 2013

So they'll sell the console at a loss and bleed money like Sony did this Gen?



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HipHopGodd on 25 July 2013

Microsoft is going to do quite well either way. Also, nearly everyone who calls a fan of a different a fanboy is a fanboy of the thread in topic.



Jay520 on 25 July 2013

Nintendo is doomed.

However if they don't drop the price, Nintendo is still doomed.



Mr Puggsly on 26 July 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:


They thought the Wii U would bring people towards them since the tablet market is growing at a rapid pace but failed to see that videogames only have a finite amount of use to them. They don't need it. The Wii was simple, a quick gimmick to enjoy with the family. The Kinect fed off the residue of that crowd which is why MS ctoninues to believe in the value that isnt no longer really there for the mass market. They are protecting an investment that is powerful but can only do so much when it comes to games and Sony pointed this out long ago no matter how hard they try.

The Kinect does not make the Xbone unique. The Playstation has been using the same device for the longest. The problem you're not seeing is MS got the mass market credit for something Sony started earlier and already dried up the value of. 

MS if forcing Kinect down peoples throats and you know it. They are just protecting their investment. Xbox fanatics will buy it, plain and simple. Let them have it. I will have it if I get my Xbone later on. Its still a very attractive item which represents the American gamer (and I am not even sure they will win over all of those gamers back, the multiplat gamers are jumping back to Sony for sure in America).

P.S.

When this gen first started I and many others said that you could buy a 360 and a Wii for the price of a PS3 and that was true. Today I am saying the Playstation can be purchased with two games of your choice for just about the same price as an Xbone. Its a direct advantage, especially for gamers who care not for exclusives. They have any two games of their chosing and a more powerful console at a cheaper price.

Did i say the tablet was a good idea? No. I was just using it as an example. The Wiimote is another example of bundlling a unique peripheral to make a console more unique. Some ideas are successful, some are not.

"The Kinect does not make the Xbone unique. The Playstation has been using the same device for the longest." Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Sony has not made anything at par with the Kinect. I love when you say things like that, shows how incredibly bias you are.

I'm going to ignore most of what you said. Its just nonsense opinions.



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Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


They thought the Wii U would bring people towards them since the tablet market is growing at a rapid pace but failed to see that videogames only have a finite amount of use to them. They don't need it. The Wii was simple, a quick gimmick to enjoy with the family. The Kinect fed off the residue of that crowd which is why MS ctoninues to believe in the value that isnt no longer really there for the mass market. They are protecting an investment that is powerful but can only do so much when it comes to games and Sony pointed this out long ago no matter how hard they try.

The Kinect does not make the Xbone unique. The Playstation has been using the same device for the longest. The problem you're not seeing is MS got the mass market credit for something Sony started earlier and already dried up the value of. 

MS if forcing Kinect down peoples throats and you know it. They are just protecting their investment. Xbox fanatics will buy it, plain and simple. Let them have it. I will have it if I get my Xbone later on. Its still a very attractive item which represents the American gamer (and I am not even sure they will win over all of those gamers back, the multiplat gamers are jumping back to Sony for sure in America).

P.S.

When this gen first started I and many others said that you could buy a 360 and a Wii for the price of a PS3 and that was true. Today I am saying the Playstation can be purchased with two games of your choice for just about the same price as an Xbone. Its a direct advantage, especially for gamers who care not for exclusives. They have any two games of their chosing and a more powerful console at a cheaper price.

Did i say the tablet was a good idea? No. I was just using it as an example. The Wiimote is another example of bundlling a unique peripheral to make a console more unique. Some ideas are successful, some are not.

"The Kinect does not make the Xbone unique. The Playstation has been using the same device for the longest." Wow, what a ridiculous statement. Sony has not made anything at par with the Kinect. I love when you say things like that, shows how incredibly bias you are.

I'm going to ignore most of what you said. Its just nonsense opinions.


This is the epitome of bias. Theres no way you can dispute that the PS4 is at an advantage because you can buy a PS4 with two games for the price of an Xbone. No way at all.



Nem on 26 July 2013

Microsoft loses a ton of money.