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Zero999 said:
NightDragon83 said:
This is what happens when you once again release an underpowered console that's playing catchup in the visuals department.

more hater whining, woohoo. it's always delicious to taste your tears.


He's right. Nintendo selfishly developers their consoles for their own purposes only suited to themselves. Ubisoft wont be able to give them next gen games, but they'll try to make games for them. Ubisoft is a testament to the fact that third parties are forced to work themselves around Nintendo to profit off of their installed based. Just Dance, Red Steel and Zombie U are testaments to this fact.



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jake_the_fake1 said:
Zero999 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:

What can Nintendo do?

Simple, do what they did with X and bayonetta 2, but go big and go loud like Microsoft did with the 360 and all those Japanese games they funded and published, as well as that cash they threw at EA and Activision to get day one BF4/COD:Ghosts DLC on Xbox one, as well as the cash they threw to get Titan fall exclusivity.

Nintendo has money, Nintendo has the capabilities to money hat, and in my opinion they need to money hat because 3rd parties at the moment don't give a shit about the WiiU or Nintendo consoles in general.

Nintendo needs to grow the install base, it needs to build relations with 3rd party, it needs to woo 3rd parties by giving them a reason to make games for the WiiU, if that means publishing, funding, paying for extra or timed exclusive content then so be it...this is what a platform holder can do, this is what both Sony and Microsoft have done. If Nintendo seriously wants 3rd party devs, then they need to enter the big boy playing field and start using that money they keep hording.

Remember, Nintendo is the platform holder, it's is their responsibilities to ensure that the install base grows, it's also their responsibilities to get 3rd party on board, failure to do either IS Nintendo's fault and not the fault of publishers or developers, hence me saying that Nintendo fans need to voice their dissatisfaction to the platform holder, Nintendo, if they want change. Again, the best recent example is DRM and its removal by Microsoft from the xbox one, there is no reason the same thing can't happen, but this time to get Nintendo to shell out more cash to get proper 3rd parties on board.

But I guess if you’re happy with the WiiU possibly becoming the next GameCube, or worse, potentially becoming the Dreamcast, then more power to you. For me personally, I want Nintendo fans to experience the same level of 3rd party support I get on my PS3 while at the same time enjoying the exclusive 1st party games that have made us choose our preferred platform in the first place, a win-win situation as it were.

Again, just my opinion so you may take it as you like.

 

 

Againg, paying is only an option to get exclusivity. the idea of paying to receive multiplatforms that devs are releasing for free on other platforms is ridiculous. so it's not nintendo's fault when stupid third parties don't release their multiplats.

If Nintendo was like Sony and Microsoft in regards to 3rd party games, yeah I would agree with you. in fact this thread wouldn't even exist let alone the discussion, however, this is not the case, and so far it seems that nothing Nintendo seems to be doing is getting them 3rd party games, and simply waiting to get free multiplats will only cripple the WiiU in the long run.

Nintendo may not want to pay, but it'll have to be a strategy they'll have to try in order to change their 3rd party situation. luckly Nintendo seems to be dabling in it a little bit by them funding/publishing bayonetta 2 and X.  The more they do this, the larger their install base will grow till it reaches a point where 3rd parties can no longer ignore it's install base especially when 3rd parties start seeing non Nintendo games selling well on the WiiU.

I honestly don't understand why you're against the idea of Nintendo money hatting 3rd parties, what would you propose Nintendo do to get 3rd parties on board whch they haven't already been trying but failing at?

X is a first party, i think you meant W 101. there's also the sonic games and smt x fe so I wouldn't say nothing nintendo is doing is getting 3rd parties. they're getting their 3rd's exclusives and some multis as well as their firts. I'm sure after 2013 the istall base won't be an excuse for thirds anymore.

And I think I wasn't clear. I'M NOT AGAINS'T NINTENDO MONEY HATTING 3RD PARTIES. after all I aprove the W101, bayonetta 2 and sonic money hattings. I'm just saying it's out of question for nintendo to pay to receive a multiplatform. no company would ever do that, paying is reserved to get some form of exclusivity, not to get what the others are getting for free.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zero999 said:
NightDragon83 said:
This is what happens when you once again release an underpowered console that's playing catchup in the visuals department.

more hater whining, woohoo. it's always delicious to taste your tears.


He's right. Nintendo selfishly developers their consoles for their own purposes only suited to themselves. Ubisoft wont be able to give them next gen games, but they'll try to make games for them. Ubisoft is a testament to the fact that third parties are forced to work themselves around Nintendo to profit off of their installed based. Just Dance, Red Steel and Zombie U are testaments to this fact.

I don't think that Ubi suffered that much for Just Dance.



KungKras said:
I'll say here what I commented on the video:

I feel sorry for the naivety of the guy in the video. He still thinks the CEO's and the engineers in those companies are just that stupid.

He doesn't realize that it's not about testing the waters. It's about giving investors an excuse to never have to develop for Nintendo again.


What's the motive?



Cobretti2 said:
snyps said:
half assed is a myth. Multiplats have better graphics on wiiu. This techusa guy is the dumbest.


DId you watch the video? It is not so much about gfx but the missing content and wanting people to pay full price when a better version of the game is avialable on steam for 1/4 of that.


I realy don't wanna watch it...  If he's so industry savy why can't he record him self or the things he talks about.  I heard the talk about sniper elite not getting the same content.  But the other muktiplats I know about do have the same content if not more.  I really don't want to watch the whole thing.  Could yu list the games he's complaining about missing content.  And not dlc cuz that's not what you pay for when you buy a game.  Thanks I advance.



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flagstaad said:
curl-6 said:
Trine 2: Director's Cut and Need For Speed Most Wanted U give a taste of what can be accomplished when devs actually put EFFORT into Wii U multiplats.

The problem is that when they put some real effort the sales are also not very good, I did my part and bought NFS MW but how many more did? people should vote with their wallets.

Trine 2 developers are happy with Wii U sales.  It was at the top of the eshop charts for awhile and I believe it sold pretty well on the Wii U eshop.  I would have maybe purchased NFS MW if it wasn't published by EA.  I can't break my EA boycott for a racing game...  I'll wait for Project Cars, MK8, 90s Arcade Racer, and Road Redemption.



curl-6 said:
Like the PS3 for the first half of it's life, and to a degree to this today, Wii U is getting lumped with crappy ports because devs aren't putting in the effort of optimizing for it.


99% of the ports are inferior to the original version.  

Asking for ports to be as good or better than the original game is almost contradictory imo.



IsawYoshi said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zero999 said:

 


He's right. Nintendo selfishly developers their consoles for their own purposes only suited to themselves. Ubisoft wont be able to give them next gen games, but they'll try to make games for them. Ubisoft is a testament to the fact that third parties are forced to work themselves around Nintendo to profit off of their installed based. Just Dance, Red Steel and Zombie U are testaments to this fact.

I don't think that Ubi suffered that much for Just Dance.

I know because they had to work their way around Nintendo. If you cannot create a truly innovative experience and you dont have as much time as Nintendo to form fit everything into the process of a new IP thats what tends to happen. Just Dance was a genius cash crab because of the casual audience on the Wii. One of the few third parties to crack the casuals.



Talal said:
KungKras said:
I'll say here what I commented on the video:

I feel sorry for the naivety of the guy in the video. He still thinks the CEO's and the engineers in those companies are just that stupid.

He doesn't realize that it's not about testing the waters. It's about giving investors an excuse to never have to develop for Nintendo again.


What's the motive?

A 'pure' industry dominated by big corporations that suits third parties needs and industrial vision for gaming.



I LOVE ICELAND!

I have sniper elite v2 on Wii U, i got it pretty cheap. Aside from the missing features the core single player experience is better on Wii U than PS360 versions. It runs at a higher resolution, has no screen tearing and the gamepad features are very useful as is off tv play. I have played it on PS3 too, so i feel qualified to make the comparisons. Its a bitch the devs were sloppy with the content, but if picked up at a budget price the campaign really is quite good.