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Test games are just an excuse to say "Oh Nintendo fan's don't buy 3rd party" when the game bombs hard because it's bad.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

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jake_the_fake1 said:
And all this comes back to Nintendo and their mismanagement of 3rd parties.....who knew!?!?

In all seriousness, fans shouldn't complain about 3rd parties, cuz if 3rd parties didn't put the games they're putting out right now, ports or not, the WiiU would be more barren than it is right now, making the WiiU situation worse, Instead Nintendo fans should complain to Nintendo, just look at the people power which caused Microsoft to drop DRM, I'm sure the same can twist Nintendo's arm s they can get their shit together and spend some of their money, which they're currently hording, to get stuff done right for their fans.

Simply put, Nintendo needs to step up to the plate, and get better ports with added content by talking with 3rd parties, while their at it get 3rd parties to release newer games which will be releasing on the PS3/360 even if Nintendo have to spend a little bit of cash....it's not rocket science, Microsoft did it with GTA and it ensured the game come out day and date of the Playstation release, hell they even did it with MGS2/3 back during the xbox days. This is something the platform holder needs to do, the fact Nintendo doesn't bother goes to show how much they care, which is to say, they don't care too much....well that's the perception they give.

Look I understand Nintendo's been struggling with HD development, it's why they've delayed some many games till next year, it happened to Sony and Microsoft as well when the PS3/360 launched. But Nintendo had at least 5 years in which they could of better prepared considering what they saw happened to both Sony and Microsoft, they could of bulked up their teams especially when they started moving to WiiU development, they should of started cutting deals with more 3rd parties early on before the WiiU was even launched, something like what they've done with bayonnetta 2 and X but with BIG multiplat tittles like FIFI, Madden, BF4, and GTA5.

I don't know, the fact that the WiiU isn't getting Madden and FIFI this year, kinda reminds me how the Sega Dreamcast didn't get them either and soon after Sega left the hardware market, Nintendo is not leaving the hardware market cuz they have money, but I'm just sayin......

anyways, my 2 cents.


Do you mean FIFA?

ALso do you mean EA games in general? Because I don't knwo where you have been but I think Nintendo were expecting them. After all EA come out on Nintendo's stage at E3 chanting unprecident support. Well we all knwo what happened there hence why there is no support.

I do hwoever agree they shoudl have had more projects inline similar to X and Bayonetta 2, that way it gives the Wii U enough exclusives for people to consider a purchase over other consoles.



 

 

snyps said:
half assed is a myth. Multiplats have better graphics on wiiu. This techusa guy is the dumbest.


DId you watch the video? It is not so much about gfx but the missing content and wanting people to pay full price when a better version of the game is avialable on steam for 1/4 of that.



 

 

Zero999 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
And all this comes back to Nintendo and their mismanagement of 3rd parties.....who knew!?!?

In all seriousness, fans shouldn't complain about 3rd parties, cuz if 3rd parties didn't put the games they're putting out right now, ports or not, the WiiU would be more barren than it is right now, making the WiiU situation worse, Instead Nintendo fans should complain to Nintendo, just look at the people power which caused Microsoft to drop DRM, I'm sure the same can twist Nintendo's arm s they can get their shit together and spend some of their money, which they're currently hording, to get stuff done right for their fans.

Simply put, Nintendo needs to step up to the plate, and get better ports with added content by talking with 3rd parties, while their at it get 3rd parties to release newer games which will be releasing on the PS3/360 even if Nintendo have to spend a little bit of cash....it's not rocket science, Microsoft did it with GTA and it ensured the game come out day and date of the Playstation release, hell they even did it with MGS2/3 back during the xbox days. This is something the platform holder needs to do, the fact Nintendo doesn't bother goes to show how much they care, which is to say, they don't care too much....well that's the perception they give.

Look I understand Nintendo's been struggling with HD development, it's why they've delayed some many games till next year, it happened to Sony and Microsoft as well when the PS3/360 launched. But Nintendo had at least 5 years in which they could of better prepared considering what they saw happened to both Sony and Microsoft, they could of bulked up their teams especially when they started moving to WiiU development, they should of started cutting deals with more 3rd parties early on before the WiiU was even launched, something like what they've done with bayonnetta 2 and X but with BIG multiplat tittles like FIFI, Madden, BF4, and GTA5.

I don't know, the fact that the WiiU isn't getting Madden and FIFI this year, kinda reminds me how the Sega Dreamcast didn't get them either and soon after Sega left the hardware market, Nintendo is not leaving the hardware market cuz they have money, but I'm just sayin......

anyways, my 2 cents.

No company will pay devs to receive the same treatment they give others for free. IT'S THE DEVS PEOPLE SHOULD COMPLAIN, WHAT CAN NINTENDO DO? THE CONSOLE IS THERE AND THE DEV KITS TOO.

What can Nintendo do?

Simple, do what they did with X and bayonetta 2, but go big and go loud like Microsoft did with the 360 and all those Japanese games they funded and published, as well as that cash they threw at EA and Activision to get day one BF4/COD:Ghosts DLC on Xbox one, as well as the cash they threw to get Titan fall exclusivity.

Nintendo has money, Nintendo has the capabilities to money hat, and in my opinion they need to money hat because 3rd parties at the moment don't give a shit about the WiiU or Nintendo consoles in general.

Nintendo needs to grow the install base, it needs to build relations with 3rd party, it needs to woo 3rd parties by giving them a reason to make games for the WiiU, if that means publishing, funding, paying for extra or timed exclusive content then so be it...this is what a platform holder can do, this is what both Sony and Microsoft have done. If Nintendo seriously wants 3rd party devs, then they need to enter the big boy playing field and start using that money they keep hording.

Remember, Nintendo is the platform holder, it's is their responsibilities to ensure that the install base grows, it's also their responsibilities to get 3rd party on board, failure to do either IS Nintendo's fault and not the fault of publishers or developers, hence me saying that Nintendo fans need to voice their dissatisfaction to the platform holder, Nintendo, if they want change. Again, the best recent example is DRM and its removal by Microsoft from the xbox one, there is no reason the same thing can't happen, but this time to get Nintendo to shell out more cash to get proper 3rd parties on board.

But I guess if you’re happy with the WiiU possibly becoming the next GameCube, or worse, potentially becoming the Dreamcast, then more power to you. For me personally, I want Nintendo fans to experience the same level of 3rd party support I get on my PS3 while at the same time enjoying the exclusive 1st party games that have made us choose our preferred platform in the first place, a win-win situation as it were.

Again, just my opinion so you may take it as you like.

 



No point in them stopping now. Once the next gen games come Wii U wont be able to deal with most of them properly. EA even said it themselves, they'll get to the Wii U once they realizing what they've wanted to make with next gen consoles.



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jake_the_fake1 said:

What can Nintendo do?

Simple, do what they did with X and bayonetta 2, but go big and go loud like Microsoft did with the 360 and all those Japanese games they funded and published, as well as that cash they threw at EA and Activision to get day one BF4/COD:Ghosts DLC on Xbox one, as well as the cash they threw to get Titan fall exclusivity.

Nintendo has money, Nintendo has the capabilities to money hat, and in my opinion they need to money hat because 3rd parties at the moment don't give a shit about the WiiU or Nintendo consoles in general.

Nintendo needs to grow the install base, it needs to build relations with 3rd party, it needs to woo 3rd parties by giving them a reason to make games for the WiiU, if that means publishing, funding, paying for extra or timed exclusive content then so be it...this is what a platform holder can do, this is what both Sony and Microsoft have done. If Nintendo seriously wants 3rd party devs, then they need to enter the big boy playing field and start using that money they keep hording.

Remember, Nintendo is the platform holder, it's is their responsibilities to ensure that the install base grows, it's also their responsibilities to get 3rd party on board, failure to do either IS Nintendo's fault and not the fault of publishers or developers, hence me saying that Nintendo fans need to voice their dissatisfaction to the platform holder, Nintendo, if they want change. Again, the best recent example is DRM and its removal by Microsoft from the xbox one, there is no reason the same thing can't happen, but this time to get Nintendo to shell out more cash to get proper 3rd parties on board.

But I guess if you’re happy with the WiiU possibly becoming the next GameCube, or worse, potentially becoming the Dreamcast, then more power to you. For me personally, I want Nintendo fans to experience the same level of 3rd party support I get on my PS3 while at the same time enjoying the exclusive 1st party games that have made us choose our preferred platform in the first place, a win-win situation as it were.

Again, just my opinion so you may take it as you like.

 

 

Again, paying is only an option to get exclusivity. the idea of paying to receive multiplatforms that devs are releasing for free on other platforms is ridiculous. so it's not nintendo's fault when stupid third parties don't release their multiplats.



This is what happens when you once again release an underpowered console that's playing catchup in the visuals department.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

NightDragon83 said:
This is what happens when you once again release an underpowered console that's playing catchup in the visuals department.

more hater whining, woohoo. it's always delicious to taste your tears.



Zero999 said:
NightDragon83 said:
This is what happens when you once again release an underpowered console that's playing catchup in the visuals department.

more hater whining, woohoo. it's always delicious to taste your tears.

You talking to me, or the Nintendo fans complaining about the half-assed multiplats they keep getting?  Because I'm not the one doing the whining there...



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Zero999 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:

What can Nintendo do?

Simple, do what they did with X and bayonetta 2, but go big and go loud like Microsoft did with the 360 and all those Japanese games they funded and published, as well as that cash they threw at EA and Activision to get day one BF4/COD:Ghosts DLC on Xbox one, as well as the cash they threw to get Titan fall exclusivity.

Nintendo has money, Nintendo has the capabilities to money hat, and in my opinion they need to money hat because 3rd parties at the moment don't give a shit about the WiiU or Nintendo consoles in general.

Nintendo needs to grow the install base, it needs to build relations with 3rd party, it needs to woo 3rd parties by giving them a reason to make games for the WiiU, if that means publishing, funding, paying for extra or timed exclusive content then so be it...this is what a platform holder can do, this is what both Sony and Microsoft have done. If Nintendo seriously wants 3rd party devs, then they need to enter the big boy playing field and start using that money they keep hording.

Remember, Nintendo is the platform holder, it's is their responsibilities to ensure that the install base grows, it's also their responsibilities to get 3rd party on board, failure to do either IS Nintendo's fault and not the fault of publishers or developers, hence me saying that Nintendo fans need to voice their dissatisfaction to the platform holder, Nintendo, if they want change. Again, the best recent example is DRM and its removal by Microsoft from the xbox one, there is no reason the same thing can't happen, but this time to get Nintendo to shell out more cash to get proper 3rd parties on board.

But I guess if you’re happy with the WiiU possibly becoming the next GameCube, or worse, potentially becoming the Dreamcast, then more power to you. For me personally, I want Nintendo fans to experience the same level of 3rd party support I get on my PS3 while at the same time enjoying the exclusive 1st party games that have made us choose our preferred platform in the first place, a win-win situation as it were.

Again, just my opinion so you may take it as you like.

 

 

Againg, paying is only an option to get exclusivity. the idea of paying to receive multiplatforms that devs are releasing for free on other platforms is ridiculous. so it's not nintendo's fault when stupid third parties don't release their multiplats.

If Nintendo was like Sony and Microsoft in regards to 3rd party games, yeah I would agree with you. in fact this thread wouldn't even exist let alone the discussion, however, this is not the case, and so far it seems that nothing Nintendo seems to be doing is getting them 3rd party games, and simply waiting to get free multiplats will only cripple the WiiU in the long run.

Nintendo may not want to pay, but it'll have to be a strategy they'll have to try in order to change their 3rd party situation. luckly Nintendo seems to be dabling in it a little bit by them funding/publishing bayonetta 2 and X.  The more they do this, the larger their install base will grow till it reaches a point where 3rd parties can no longer ignore it's install base especially when 3rd parties start seeing non Nintendo games selling well on the WiiU.

I honestly don't understand why you're against the idea of Nintendo money hatting 3rd parties, what would you propose Nintendo do to get 3rd parties on board whch they haven't already been trying but failing at?