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I'm not worried because I have -so far- decided against owning the new MS machine. I just completely disagree with the path they are taking, especially when it comes to the  handling of the used game market. I have been gaming since Telstar released the "Telstar Arcade!" and sadly, this will be the first game(?) machine I am passing on since the 1970's. I like Sony and what they are saying at the moment so we will see what happens next...



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gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zappykins said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
 

Well either that or some of the Move games are simply bad.

Wonderbook received A LOT of advertising over the holidays.

Actually the Move is the most accurate device i've used out of the lot of them. The problem with it is I dont think Sony takes casual games seriously. They've been developing casual games since 2001 and compared to their competition for motion control and it seems like it doesnt matter to them. The Move games have the capacity to be more sophisticated than the Kinect and the Wii, because its both combined therefore realizing Sonys dream of a game thats attainable for casuals that plays like a core title. The problem is they dont treat their casual games very well.

I don't disagree, but I think they were too late to the party.  If they had brought it out close to when the Wii came out, it might have sold really well.  But they were so late, and Kinect was the new 'Wii' when it came out.  But to me, and many other consumers, Move  looks like an HD Wii.  While Kinect, was new, daring, different and ‘sparkly.’

Now, Kinect 2.0, looks like it might solve many of the ordinals problems. I’m wondering if a new ‘Star Wars’(wishing)  and “Disneyworld Adventures’(expecting) are in the works.

 


Yeah, Sony had been developing the Move since 2004, which was shown in the developer doc's they put out. They thought the concept of just camera gaming was too limited and pointless outside of simple recognition. Their game development needs to be spruced up and they need to reach outside of first party to make sure top games come to Kinect to make it more appealing. After that no one would be able to hang with them on that court. The Move will still be more powerful than the Kinect 2.0. Theres no need for them to revamp the Move controller. If Sony had Ryse, it would've been out long ago because the tech would've worked and proven Sonys theory that Camera alone tech isn't intuitive enough to work by itself. Ryse was pushed back for that reason because it was Microsofts only chance to prove to core camers that they werent lying to them that Kinect could be for the core. It's still a failure in that technical respect, but I loved the Kinect only for Dance Central, so I used to just call it the Dance Central box after a while. Microsofts woes are never marketingwise, I'll give them that for sure, I wish Sony had a shred of their marketing prowess. Then again, at the same time I wish MS made games on a developmental scale like Sony so its apples and oranges, really. 

Kinect 2.0 won't solve many problems only a small portion of them that demanded a bit more power. Sony explain long ago why on a technical level camera gaming isnt credible for the type of games they wanted to make.

I think cameras will be fine, at some point.  I'm not sure if Kinect 2.0 is at that level, but we shall see.

The people, PrimeSince, who made the 3D camera for Kinect were rejected by Sony and Apple, before coming to Microsoft.  Microsoft had already been working on such things.

Some of my favorite unexpected things are the Fun Labs and Kinect Party stuff.  You can set your couch on fire! 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Zappykins said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Zappykins said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
 

Well either that or some of the Move games are simply bad.

Wonderbook received A LOT of advertising over the holidays.

Actually the Move is the most accurate device i've used out of the lot of them. The problem with it is I dont think Sony takes casual games seriously. They've been developing casual games since 2001 and compared to their competition for motion control and it seems like it doesnt matter to them. The Move games have the capacity to be more sophisticated than the Kinect and the Wii, because its both combined therefore realizing Sonys dream of a game thats attainable for casuals that plays like a core title. The problem is they dont treat their casual games very well.

I don't disagree, but I think they were too late to the party.  If they had brought it out close to when the Wii came out, it might have sold really well.  But they were so late, and Kinect was the new 'Wii' when it came out.  But to me, and many other consumers, Move  looks like an HD Wii.  While Kinect, was new, daring, different and ‘sparkly.’

Now, Kinect 2.0, looks like it might solve many of the ordinals problems. I’m wondering if a new ‘Star Wars’(wishing)  and “Disneyworld Adventures’(expecting) are in the works.

 


Yeah, Sony had been developing the Move since 2004, which was shown in the developer doc's they put out. They thought the concept of just camera gaming was too limited and pointless outside of simple recognition. Their game development needs to be spruced up and they need to reach outside of first party to make sure top games come to Kinect to make it more appealing. After that no one would be able to hang with them on that court. The Move will still be more powerful than the Kinect 2.0. Theres no need for them to revamp the Move controller. If Sony had Ryse, it would've been out long ago because the tech would've worked and proven Sonys theory that Camera alone tech isn't intuitive enough to work by itself. Ryse was pushed back for that reason because it was Microsofts only chance to prove to core camers that they werent lying to them that Kinect could be for the core. It's still a failure in that technical respect, but I loved the Kinect only for Dance Central, so I used to just call it the Dance Central box after a while. Microsofts woes are never marketingwise, I'll give them that for sure, I wish Sony had a shred of their marketing prowess. Then again, at the same time I wish MS made games on a developmental scale like Sony so its apples and oranges, really. 

Kinect 2.0 won't solve many problems only a small portion of them that demanded a bit more power. Sony explain long ago why on a technical level camera gaming isnt credible for the type of games they wanted to make.

I think cameras will be fine, at some point.  I'm not sure if Kinect 2.0 is at that level, but we shall see.

The people, PrimeSince, who made the 3D camera for Kinect were rejected by Sony and Apple, before coming to Microsoft.  Microsoft had already been working on such things.

Some of my favorite unexpected things are the Fun Labs and Kinect Party stuff.  You can set your couch on fire! 

 


Microsoft had nothing prepared for the Wii, they took sloppy thirds and since Rare wasnt producing hits for them since they put them on Xbox Live detail they also made them work on the Kinect tech in tandem with Primsense. The Kinect development was half Rares doing.



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Cj2i3 said:
Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

Microsoft can just publish any game they want and make it exclusive to Xbox One, money talks man.

Sony on the other hand can't do that, Sony Corp has put a cap on how much money SCE can spend on playstation developement and

playstation games. Microsoft on the other hand can spend billions on Xbox One and Xbox One games if the need be. I bet alot of

you did not know that. Just look at all the deals microsoft got for xbox 360 and sony couldnt do anything about it.

Same thing will happen next gen. Xbox One is going to have the best games in the gaming industry just like Xbox 360 did.

That is the main reason I chose Xbox over any other platform. Because I know Microsoft have the money to spend on

the best exclusive games.



Well I no longer have any fear they can get any exclusive from a series I cherish. Not FF, not MGS. Multiplat sure,, but not exclusive. There is a small fear it could be the next Mass Effect from EA/Bioware but....then again its EA(though they have been really chummy with MS).
For the most part they will be almost all new IPs like they said, which is good. We shall see if they can entice me with those, as last gen the only game that ever made me look twice at 360 was ME series and that eventually came over.



      

      

      

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Jega said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

Microsoft can just publish any game they want and make it exclusive to Xbox One, money talks man.

Sony on the other hand can't do that, Sony Corp has put a cap on how much money SCE can spend on playstation developement and

playstation games. Microsoft on the other hand can spend billions on Xbox One and Xbox One games if the need be. I bet alot of

you did not know that. Just look at all the deals microsoft got for xbox 360 and sony couldnt do anything about it.

Same thing will happen next gen. Xbox One is going to have the best games in the gaming industry just like Xbox 360 did.

That is the main reason I chose Xbox over any other platform. Because I know Microsoft have the money to spend on

the best exclusive games.


What exclusives did Microsoft buy this gen?

 

The only exclusives worthwhile on the 360 are Halo, Gears, and Forza...Microsoft didn't pay second parties to go multiplatfom, the devs simply couldn't ignore the 360's userbase.  Billions of dollars on Xbox One games? Doubtful, I'm not sure if you're aware or not but Microsoft's gaming division simply isn't profitable enough for what you're proposing. You're forgetting the fact that Xbox and Playstation are only small divisions for Sony and Microsoft, so neither will put their gaming divisions in a financial hole by spending billions on buying a huge dev. 

 

There's currently 0 hype for a Xbox 360 exclusive this year, absolutely none. Meanwhile PS3 is seeing Beyond Two Souls, The Last Of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Xillia, and God Of War Ascension. Other than Gears of War Judgement, what has Microsoft given you on your 360? You said the best games right? Where are they?  I'll give you a hint, there aren't many Xbox exclusives, third party games were better on the platform admittedly, but don't dare try to compare the two first parties, in all honesty the comparison is rather laughible.

 

When it comes to 1st party content it goes. Nintendo Handheld > Nintendo Console = Playstation > Microsoft.



forevercloud3000 said:
Well I no longer have any fear they can get any exclusive from a series I cherish. Not FF, not MGS. Multiplat sure,, but not exclusive. There is a small fear it could be the next Mass Effect from EA/Bioware but....then again its EA(though they have been really chummy with MS).
For the most part they will be almost all new IPs like they said, which is good. We shall see if they can entice me with those, as last gen the only game that ever made me look twice at 360 was ME series and that eventually came over.

Ok cool but I would be concerned about new Ips as well. Look at gears of war for instants Microsoft does not own the ip, but you can bet your

money that gears of war will stay an xbox exclusive. Microsoft probably doesn't even have to make a deal with epic. Epic can just make it exclusive

and know its going to do well, without microsoft having to give them more cash. So thats the thing once a game is exclusive as time goes on

microsoft probably dont have to spend any more money. As the developer will know this game will sell well on Xbox. Dead rising is an example

of a game I think came to the ps3 but it is looked as an Xbox game because it came to Xbox 360 first and sold well. Capcom may Decide to not

bring that ip to PS4. So basically new Ips will debut on Xbox and stay on Xbox. So I would be concerned. I want to play the best games and you

know microsoft is constantly checking with developers on what they are doing next and developers know this. They know they can get microsoft

to help them with their new Ip financially. Insomniac comes to mind, I actually like insomnaics work now they are making games for Xbox.

And that gets me excited to see what they are going to do. If what insomniac got cooking is something truly special you can bet microsoft will

snatch it up.



Angelus said:
What exactly is MS bringing to One at launch? Sony has Knack, Drive Club, inFamous and Killzone already announced with more ready for E3. Counting digital games, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony releases more than 15 exclusives in PS4's first year.


Knack looks amusing

Drive Club will be hurt by GT6 on PS3

inFamous and Kill zone both declined quite a bit in sales. Especially inFamous, I don't know why Sony wouldn't let those Studios make new IPs instead of pushing two that the market isn't responding to.

I don't doubt Sony will show more, but I haven't seen a winner yet.

As for MS, we know very little, except Forza 5 and Quantum Break. Forza is a guaranteed hit, and Quantum is from Remedy, so chances are it'll be amazing. Other than that we'll have to wait for E3, but if they do have many core AAA titles in the works, then I think there's a good chance they'll have the upper hand on Sony by a good margin.

Of course I could be wrong. Time will tell.

All Sony really has to show me is FF versus and I could care less what else they show anyway.


There is a method to Sony's madness here.

Killzone and Infamous are perfect "Show Piece" titles. They utilize the capabilities of the hardware for some really flashy and cool effects. Sony has used Killzone to demonstrate the power of the PS3. KZ2's graphics were un heard of for console at the time and then KZ3 stepped it up with 3D as well.

Infamous has the added benefit with being made with a non existant budget yet producing quite the experience for so little. Both games were recieved pretty well. I am also pretty sure Infamous was profitable. Most of any game's budget is allocated to Marketing, of which Sony gave almost none to this early/mid year release. They did also have that DLC spin off that sold really well. Not to mention the game later became available for free on PS+ which helps I think. Devs might get a cut of the money for every person that joins during the months using their game and it also means more people have at least tried it and know the series.

It is also better to use B teir games at launch rather than an A-lister. It perfectly budgets the idea of letting a relatively unknown game get better exposure as it isn't crowded by huge releases but you don't want to take the risk of your most costly games not selling a lot on the platform just yet(which is GT and Uncharted for Sony). The A Teams will come by Christmas Next year.



      

      

      

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