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Daisuke72 said:
Jega said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

Microsoft can just publish any game they want and make it exclusive to Xbox One, money talks man.

Sony on the other hand can't do that, Sony Corp has put a cap on how much money SCE can spend on playstation developement and

playstation games. Microsoft on the other hand can spend billions on Xbox One and Xbox One games if the need be. I bet alot of

you did not know that. Just look at all the deals microsoft got for xbox 360 and sony couldnt do anything about it.

Same thing will happen next gen. Xbox One is going to have the best games in the gaming industry just like Xbox 360 did.

That is the main reason I chose Xbox over any other platform. Because I know Microsoft have the money to spend on

the best exclusive games.


What exclusives did Microsoft buy this gen?

 

The only exclusives worthwhile on the 360 are Halo, Gears, and Forza...Microsoft didn't pay second parties to go multiplatfom, the devs simply couldn't ignore the 360's userbase.  Billions of dollars on Xbox One games? Doubtful, I'm not sure if you're aware or not but Microsoft's gaming division simply isn't profitable enough for what you're proposing. You're forgetting the fact that Xbox and Playstation are only small divisions for Sony and Microsoft, so neither will put their gaming divisions in a financial hole by spending billions on buying a huge dev. 

 

There's currently 0 hype for a Xbox 360 exclusive this year, absolutely none. Meanwhile PS3 is seeing Beyond Two Souls, The Last Of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Xillia, and God Of War Ascension. Other than Gears of War Judgement, what has Microsoft given you on your 360? You said the best games right? Where are they?  I'll give you a hint, there aren't many Xbox exclusives, third party games were better on the platform admittedly, but don't dare try to compare the two first parties, in all honesty the comparison is rather laughible.

 

When it comes to 1st party content it goes. Nintendo Handheld > Nintendo Console = Playstation > Microsoft.

The thing is how many of these studios does Sony truly own. That has always been my concern with Playstation. I have been gaming since 1992.

Sega and Nintendo have their own games. Along come Sony and Playstation with some new Ips Ridge Racer, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Wipeout etc.

But I said to myself, Sony does not own any of these games. I said to myself one day a company with enough cash will compete with sony and get

these exclusives from playstation I said that to myself back in 1995 when the Psone first came out. Fast foward 10 years later to 2005 when Xbox

360 is released. I said to myself all microsoft have to do is get these games on Xbox and level the playing field and they did. So Now Sony have to

now pay out cash to get these games on PS3, or create their own studios to make up for those games that are no longer exclusive.

Naughty Dog is not owned by sony. If Microsoft were to approach Naughty Dog what would Naughty Dog do? That is what you have to think about

as a Playstation only gamer. Look at Insomniac. Did Microsoft approach them we dont know. All we know is that they are now making games for Xbox.

Will Ratchet and Clank go multiplatform Who knows. Time will tell.



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Jega said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Well I no longer have any fear they can get any exclusive from a series I cherish. Not FF, not MGS. Multiplat sure,, but not exclusive. There is a small fear it could be the next Mass Effect from EA/Bioware but....then again its EA(though they have been really chummy with MS).
For the most part they will be almost all new IPs like they said, which is good. We shall see if they can entice me with those, as last gen the only game that ever made me look twice at 360 was ME series and that eventually came over.

Ok cool but I would be concerned about new Ips as well. Look at gears of war for instants Microsoft does not own the ip, but you can bet your

money that gears of war will stay an xbox exclusive. Microsoft probably doesn't even have to make a deal with epic. Epic can just make it exclusive

and know its going to do well, without microsoft having to give them more cash. So thats the thing once a game is exclusive as time goes on

microsoft probably dont have to spend any more money. As the developer will know this game will sell well on Xbox. Dead rising is an example

of a game I think came to the ps3 but it is looked as an Xbox game because it came to Xbox 360 first and sold well. Capcom may Decide to not

bring that ip to PS4. So basically new Ips will debut on Xbox and stay on Xbox. So I would be concerned. I want to play the best games and you

know microsoft is constantly checking with developers on what they are doing next and developers know this. They know they can get microsoft

to help them with their new Ip financially. Insomniac comes to mind, I actually like insomnaics work now they are making games for Xbox.

And that gets me excited to see what they are going to do. If what insomniac got cooking is something truly special you can bet microsoft will

snatch it up.

understandable but Gears does nothing for me honestly. I hate Unreal testosterone heavy looking characters. Not into racers so Forza is out(Don't like GT either) and any game that is just going to capitalize on gratuitous violence simply for the sake of it ala God of War. I like Artsy, story driven, compelling games. If MS has something in that vein in development then I will pay attention. Whether that will be enough to out strip what I know I'll like in the Sony camp has yet to be determined.

Relying purely on 3rd Parties was always a bad idea. Nintendo learned that early on, Sony figured it out just this gen, hope MS was paying attention. You can't trust anything about a 3rd party made exclusive anymore. Not only do many of them stand a chance of becoming Multiplat but you also have no control if and when the next entry in the game arrives. Epic can simply not make another gears as opposed to MS having complete control over if and when the next Halo comes etc.



      

      

      

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Jega said:
Daisuke72 said:
Jega said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

Microsoft can just publish any game they want and make it exclusive to Xbox One, money talks man.

Sony on the other hand can't do that, Sony Corp has put a cap on how much money SCE can spend on playstation developement and

playstation games. Microsoft on the other hand can spend billions on Xbox One and Xbox One games if the need be. I bet alot of

you did not know that. Just look at all the deals microsoft got for xbox 360 and sony couldnt do anything about it.

Same thing will happen next gen. Xbox One is going to have the best games in the gaming industry just like Xbox 360 did.

That is the main reason I chose Xbox over any other platform. Because I know Microsoft have the money to spend on

the best exclusive games.


What exclusives did Microsoft buy this gen?

 

The only exclusives worthwhile on the 360 are Halo, Gears, and Forza...Microsoft didn't pay second parties to go multiplatfom, the devs simply couldn't ignore the 360's userbase.  Billions of dollars on Xbox One games? Doubtful, I'm not sure if you're aware or not but Microsoft's gaming division simply isn't profitable enough for what you're proposing. You're forgetting the fact that Xbox and Playstation are only small divisions for Sony and Microsoft, so neither will put their gaming divisions in a financial hole by spending billions on buying a huge dev. 

 

There's currently 0 hype for a Xbox 360 exclusive this year, absolutely none. Meanwhile PS3 is seeing Beyond Two Souls, The Last Of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Xillia, and God Of War Ascension. Other than Gears of War Judgement, what has Microsoft given you on your 360? You said the best games right? Where are they?  I'll give you a hint, there aren't many Xbox exclusives, third party games were better on the platform admittedly, but don't dare try to compare the two first parties, in all honesty the comparison is rather laughible.

 

When it comes to 1st party content it goes. Nintendo Handheld > Nintendo Console = Playstation > Microsoft.

The thing is how many of these studios does Sony truly own. That has always been my concern with Playstation. I have been gaming since 1992.

Sega and Nintendo have their own games. Along come Sony and Playstation with some new Ips Ridge Racer, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Wipeout etc.

But I said to myself, Sony does not own any of these games. I said to myself one day a company with enough cash will compete with sony and get

these exclusives from playstation I said that to myself back in 1995 when the Psone first came out. Fast foward 10 years later to 2005 when Xbox

360 is released. I said to myself all microsoft have to do is get these games on Xbox and level the playing field and they did. So Now Sony have to

now pay out cash to get these games on PS3, or create their own studios to make up for those games that are no longer exclusive.

Naughty Dog is not owned by sony. If Microsoft were to approach Naughty Dog what would Naughty Dog do? That is what you have to think about

as a Playstation only gamer. Look at Insomniac. Did Microsoft approach them we dont know. All we know is that they are now making games for Xbox.

Will Ratchet and Clank go multiplatform Who knows. Time will tell.


Cool story bro, but Naughty Dog is actually owned by Sony if you actually did any research, and Guerilla Games, Media Molucule, Evolution Studios, Sucker Punch,  Polyphony Digital, SCE Japan Studios, Santa Montica, and etc. Most of PS3's exclusives are made by studios they own, and the rest are mostly JRPG's that will never sell well on Xbox 360. Also, Insomniac Games were ALWAYS Independant and were never Sony owned, so do research before spouting nonsense.

 

And you still haven't answered my question, what games have Microsoft given you for your 360 this year that're superior to the ones listed?....Don't worry, I'll wait. 



Daisuke72 said:


What exclusives did Microsoft buy this gen?

 

The only exclusives worthwhile on the 360 are Halo, Gears, and Forza...Microsoft didn't pay second parties to go multiplatfom, the devs simply couldn't ignore the 360's userbase.  Billions of dollars on Xbox One games? Doubtful, I'm not sure if you're aware or not but Microsoft's gaming division simply isn't profitable enough for what you're proposing. You're forgetting the fact that Xbox and Playstation are only small divisions for Sony and Microsoft, so neither will put their gaming divisions in a financial hole by spending billions on buying a huge dev. 

 

There's currently 0 hype for a Xbox 360 exclusive this year, absolutely none. Meanwhile PS3 is seeing Beyond Two Souls, The Last Of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Xillia, and God Of War Ascension. Other than Gears of War Judgement, what has Microsoft given you on your 360? You said the best games right? Where are they?  I'll give you a hint, there aren't many Xbox exclusives, third party games were better on the platform admittedly, but don't dare try to compare the two first parties, in all honesty the comparison is rather laughible.

 

When it comes to 1st party content it goes. Nintendo Handheld > Nintendo Console = Playstation > Microsoft.


Um....no. They definitely did. Rockstar and Square Enix come to mind right off the bat.

R* was actually in contract to continue to make GTA exclusively for PS brand but Sony agreed to let them out of the contract after MS offered them 60million on the premise they would give them another game of equal value. Sony's payback was suppose to be LA Noir....but that was a bust. Then Agent.......which got put on hold indefinitely.

FFXIII broke exclusivity only because of MS's checkbook. When harsh statements were being thrown at MS for moneyhatting, a MS rep responded with a chuckling "Maybe Sony should worry less about how much we paid for it, and more about why they didn't". SE was hoping for the same treatment around the time FFXIV was suppose to be releasing but they only got MS's cold shoulder as they had no use for that when they had already severed the brand recognition with the series with Sony. The money MS gave SE also ended up funding exclusive 360 version advertising of the game in the US. Even the giveaways were 360 versions(much to fan's disgust).

In short, they definitely moneyhatted some series to go multiplat. Maybe not all, but some.



      

      

      

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Daisuke72 said:
Jega said:
Daisuke72 said:
Jega said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

Microsoft can just publish any game they want and make it exclusive to Xbox One, money talks man.

Sony on the other hand can't do that, Sony Corp has put a cap on how much money SCE can spend on playstation developement and

playstation games. Microsoft on the other hand can spend billions on Xbox One and Xbox One games if the need be. I bet alot of

you did not know that. Just look at all the deals microsoft got for xbox 360 and sony couldnt do anything about it.

Same thing will happen next gen. Xbox One is going to have the best games in the gaming industry just like Xbox 360 did.

That is the main reason I chose Xbox over any other platform. Because I know Microsoft have the money to spend on

the best exclusive games.


What exclusives did Microsoft buy this gen?

 

The only exclusives worthwhile on the 360 are Halo, Gears, and Forza...Microsoft didn't pay second parties to go multiplatfom, the devs simply couldn't ignore the 360's userbase.  Billions of dollars on Xbox One games? Doubtful, I'm not sure if you're aware or not but Microsoft's gaming division simply isn't profitable enough for what you're proposing. You're forgetting the fact that Xbox and Playstation are only small divisions for Sony and Microsoft, so neither will put their gaming divisions in a financial hole by spending billions on buying a huge dev. 

 

There's currently 0 hype for a Xbox 360 exclusive this year, absolutely none. Meanwhile PS3 is seeing Beyond Two Souls, The Last Of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Xillia, and God Of War Ascension. Other than Gears of War Judgement, what has Microsoft given you on your 360? You said the best games right? Where are they?  I'll give you a hint, there aren't many Xbox exclusives, third party games were better on the platform admittedly, but don't dare try to compare the two first parties, in all honesty the comparison is rather laughible.

 

When it comes to 1st party content it goes. Nintendo Handheld > Nintendo Console = Playstation > Microsoft.

The thing is how many of these studios does Sony truly own. That has always been my concern with Playstation. I have been gaming since 1992.

Sega and Nintendo have their own games. Along come Sony and Playstation with some new Ips Ridge Racer, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Wipeout etc.

But I said to myself, Sony does not own any of these games. I said to myself one day a company with enough cash will compete with sony and get

these exclusives from playstation I said that to myself back in 1995 when the Psone first came out. Fast foward 10 years later to 2005 when Xbox

360 is released. I said to myself all microsoft have to do is get these games on Xbox and level the playing field and they did. So Now Sony have to

now pay out cash to get these games on PS3, or create their own studios to make up for those games that are no longer exclusive.

Naughty Dog is not owned by sony. If Microsoft were to approach Naughty Dog what would Naughty Dog do? That is what you have to think about

as a Playstation only gamer. Look at Insomniac. Did Microsoft approach them we dont know. All we know is that they are now making games for Xbox.

Will Ratchet and Clank go multiplatform Who knows. Time will tell.


Cool story bro, but Naughty Dog is actually owned by Sony if you actually did any research, and Guerilla Games, Media Molucule, Evolution Studios, Sucker Punch,  Polyphony Digital, SCE Japan Studios, Santa Montica, and etc. Most of PS3's exclusives are made by studios they own, and the rest are mostly JRPG's that will never sell well on Xbox 360. Also, Insomniac Games were ALWAYS Independant and were never Sony owned, so do research before spouting nonsense.

 

And you still haven't answered my question, what games have Microsoft given you for your 360 this year that're superior to the ones listed?....Don't worry, I'll wait. 

Dude, don't even bother with this guy. He's literally "Money > everything". Havn't you see his topics? Every one of them is a massive attempt to convince himself that the X1 will be the best thing in the world.



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LOL @ Naughty Dog ever making anything outside the PS platforms. HAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!!!



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 said:
Jega said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Well I no longer have any fear they can get any exclusive from a series I cherish. Not FF, not MGS. Multiplat sure,, but not exclusive. There is a small fear it could be the next Mass Effect from EA/Bioware but....then again its EA(though they have been really chummy with MS).
For the most part they will be almost all new IPs like they said, which is good. We shall see if they can entice me with those, as last gen the only game that ever made me look twice at 360 was ME series and that eventually came over.

Ok cool but I would be concerned about new Ips as well. Look at gears of war for instants Microsoft does not own the ip, but you can bet your

money that gears of war will stay an xbox exclusive. Microsoft probably doesn't even have to make a deal with epic. Epic can just make it exclusive

and know its going to do well, without microsoft having to give them more cash. So thats the thing once a game is exclusive as time goes on

microsoft probably dont have to spend any more money. As the developer will know this game will sell well on Xbox. Dead rising is an example

of a game I think came to the ps3 but it is looked as an Xbox game because it came to Xbox 360 first and sold well. Capcom may Decide to not

bring that ip to PS4. So basically new Ips will debut on Xbox and stay on Xbox. So I would be concerned. I want to play the best games and you

know microsoft is constantly checking with developers on what they are doing next and developers know this. They know they can get microsoft

to help them with their new Ip financially. Insomniac comes to mind, I actually like insomnaics work now they are making games for Xbox.

And that gets me excited to see what they are going to do. If what insomniac got cooking is something truly special you can bet microsoft will

snatch it up.

understandable but Gears does nothing for me honestly. I hate Unreal testosterone heavy looking characters. Not into racers so Forza is out(Don't like GT either) and any game that is just going to capitalize on gratuitous violence simply for the sake of it ala God of War. I like Artsy, story driven, compelling games. If MS has something in that vein in development then I will pay attention. Whether that will be enough to out strip what I know I'll like in the Sony camp has yet to be determined.

Relying purely on 3rd Parties was always a bad idea. Nintendo learned that early on, Sony figured it out just this gen, hope MS was paying attention. You can't trust anything about a 3rd party made exclusive anymore. Not only do many of them stand a chance of becoming Multiplat but you also have no control if and when the next entry in the game arrives. Epic can simply not make another gears as opposed to MS having complete control over if and when the next Halo comes etc.

Once again you have to look at new Ips. Then again the games you like might not be the ones microsoft goes after but many gamers like the games

you dont like and for those gamers, you have to take a look at what microsoft is doing with these developers.

Epic will make another gears of war because it is more money for them, and besides I believe the president of epic mark rein has already said

to not make another gears of war game would be basically financially stupid. He didnt use those exact words but you get what I am saying.

The Game is coming hopefully on Unreal Engine 4. Gears of war is my currently my favorite franchise and my vote for Overal game of this generation.



Naughty Dog has been loyal to Sony for the majority of my life and have been their first part for quite a while. Its just crazy what Jega is saying.



Daisuke72 said:
Jega said:
Daisuke72 said:
Jega said:
Cj2i3 said:
Jega said:
gooch_destroyer said:
Jega said:
There afraid it will be better than what PS4 has to offer.


I know right LOL! PS Games are average.



Because Microsoft owns a ton of grade-A studios right?

Microsoft can just publish any game they want and make it exclusive to Xbox One, money talks man.

Sony on the other hand can't do that, Sony Corp has put a cap on how much money SCE can spend on playstation developement and

playstation games. Microsoft on the other hand can spend billions on Xbox One and Xbox One games if the need be. I bet alot of

you did not know that. Just look at all the deals microsoft got for xbox 360 and sony couldnt do anything about it.

Same thing will happen next gen. Xbox One is going to have the best games in the gaming industry just like Xbox 360 did.

That is the main reason I chose Xbox over any other platform. Because I know Microsoft have the money to spend on

the best exclusive games.


What exclusives did Microsoft buy this gen?

 

The only exclusives worthwhile on the 360 are Halo, Gears, and Forza...Microsoft didn't pay second parties to go multiplatfom, the devs simply couldn't ignore the 360's userbase.  Billions of dollars on Xbox One games? Doubtful, I'm not sure if you're aware or not but Microsoft's gaming division simply isn't profitable enough for what you're proposing. You're forgetting the fact that Xbox and Playstation are only small divisions for Sony and Microsoft, so neither will put their gaming divisions in a financial hole by spending billions on buying a huge dev. 

 

There's currently 0 hype for a Xbox 360 exclusive this year, absolutely none. Meanwhile PS3 is seeing Beyond Two Souls, The Last Of Us, Gran Turismo 6, Ni No Kuni, Tales Of Xillia, and God Of War Ascension. Other than Gears of War Judgement, what has Microsoft given you on your 360? You said the best games right? Where are they?  I'll give you a hint, there aren't many Xbox exclusives, third party games were better on the platform admittedly, but don't dare try to compare the two first parties, in all honesty the comparison is rather laughible.

 

When it comes to 1st party content it goes. Nintendo Handheld > Nintendo Console = Playstation > Microsoft.

The thing is how many of these studios does Sony truly own. That has always been my concern with Playstation. I have been gaming since 1992.

Sega and Nintendo have their own games. Along come Sony and Playstation with some new Ips Ridge Racer, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Wipeout etc.

But I said to myself, Sony does not own any of these games. I said to myself one day a company with enough cash will compete with sony and get

these exclusives from playstation I said that to myself back in 1995 when the Psone first came out. Fast foward 10 years later to 2005 when Xbox

360 is released. I said to myself all microsoft have to do is get these games on Xbox and level the playing field and they did. So Now Sony have to

now pay out cash to get these games on PS3, or create their own studios to make up for those games that are no longer exclusive.

Naughty Dog is not owned by sony. If Microsoft were to approach Naughty Dog what would Naughty Dog do? That is what you have to think about

as a Playstation only gamer. Look at Insomniac. Did Microsoft approach them we dont know. All we know is that they are now making games for Xbox.

Will Ratchet and Clank go multiplatform Who knows. Time will tell.


Cool story bro, but Naughty Dog is actually owned by Sony if you actually did any research, and Guerilla Games, Media Molucule, Evolution Studios, Sucker Punch,  Polyphony Digital, SCE Japan Studios, Santa Montica, and etc. Most of PS3's exclusives are made by studios they own, and the rest are mostly JRPG's that will never sell well on Xbox 360. Also, Insomniac Games were ALWAYS Independant and were never Sony owned, so do research before spouting nonsense.

 

And you still haven't answered my question, what games have Microsoft given you for your 360 this year that're superior to the ones listed?....Don't worry, I'll wait. 

Well I just double checked at ign and the Uncharted 3 is published by sony but developed by naughty dog. That says to me naughty dog is independent.

But assuming that you are right and all those studios are owned by sony. I say, I am glad to see Sony as actually developing their own games. That is

what I want to see more of.  I want to see that sony is making their own games, so I can say this game and that game will always remain playstation

exclusives.

Now Microsoft is developing their own games in time for the new generation. So far the rumors are that things aren't going so well, but time will

tell which ips will be successful. And I can't wait to see Sony and Microsoft studios compete for gamers wallets.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Naughty Dog has been loyal to Sony for the majority of my life and have been their first part for quite a while. Its just crazy what Jega is saying.


They have been Sony first party for majority of their career correct?

I wanna say they were acquired by one of the last Crash releases for PS1 or by the time PS2 released. Saddest thing ever was that they didn't get to keep the Crash title from Activision :(

Activision should sell it back to them as they aren't doing ANYTHING with it. Unless they plan on revamping hte IP ala Spyro/Skylanders style.



      

      

      

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