What makes me laugh is that Capcom releases these games on the Wii U, which has an even lower install base than the Vita. So Capcom has something against the Vita, or maybe Nintendo is just giving them money to not make anything on the Vita
| KingKazuma34 said: What makes me laugh is that Capcom releases these games on the Wii U, which has an even lower install base than the Vita. So Capcom has something against the Vita, or maybe Nintendo is just giving them money to not make anything on the Vita |
If install base really mattered that much, no platform would ever gain momentum. Might as well cancel all PS4 and 720 projects, because those platforms have zero install base. As for "moneyhatting", how the do you think third parties got so comfortable as to think they can order platform holders around to the point where one can't even bargain for deals to rescue a flailing platform? What comes around, goes around.
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Scisca said:
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I kinda see your point now, I still think is silly to not play a game I want just because is not on the console I want though. Looking the bright side, the abscense of MH on the Vita brings opportunity for other hunting game to take the spotlight. For example, I am hyped for Soul Sacrifice, God Eater 2, Toukiden and I already have Ragnarok Oddisey. While some of these game may not be "on par" to MH, these are fun and it still shows the Vita is the console for hunting games.
Anyway, I still recommend people to play MH 4 if they love MH, even if its "inferior" to a hypothetical version of Vita. Also, give it 2 years and the game will be ported to home consoles/handhelds / Smartphones etc :P
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| Scisca said:
Of not releasing games at all on Vita. They release multiplats on all other platforms, just ignore Vita. I can see a reason why companies don't release multiplatform games on singnifantly inferior consoles with different architectures (was the case with Wii, isn't the case with Wii U right now, but will be once PS4/X720 enter the market) in which the manufacturer has pretty much killed their target core market. Not releasing multiplats in this case doesn't equal to outright ignoring a platform - just to make it clear. crapcom is doing just that right now. I don't own a Wii U and I'm not interested at all in buying it until it drops to 150 Euro, but I'm fairly certain that it will do well starting this Christmas, no matter what 3rd parties do. It's a Nintendo 1st party console to me anyway, I won't be interested in multiplats on Wii U, won't buy a single one, just like I didn't buy a single multiplat on the Wii - I'll buy it just to play Zelda, Metroid, Mario Kart, ZombiU, etc. I think that there will be a decent number of 3rd parties that will release multiplat or even exclusive games on Wii U anyway, cause they won't be able to afford the jump to next gen. Nintendo decided to bring such fate upon itself by releasing such underpowered hardware. They follow their own path and have to bear all the consequences. The Vita is a different case, cause you can't argue there are any technical reasons why a game can be on 3DS, but can't be made on Vita. You also can't say that the Vita gamer isn't interested in games like RE or MH. I don't expect exclusive games, but I do demand multiplats, especially if they release a game on every single other platform on the market. |
There's no technical reason PS3/360 games can't be on Wii U, yet companies ignore it.
If Nintendo "brought it on themselves," than surely so did Sony for making the Vita for developers rather than gamers.
Why are we still arguing this again?
If Sony wants to save it in Japan, they'll pay Capcom for a port in about 2 years. If they don't think it's worth it they won't.
Not like MH will save it now in the west anyways.
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| KingKazuma34 said: What makes me laugh is that Capcom releases these games on the Wii U, which has an even lower install base than the Vita. So Capcom has something against the Vita, or maybe Nintendo is just giving them money to not make anything on the Vita |
Stop thinking Sony were innocent in all this, they werent. Sony pushed Monster Hunter into Nintendo's hands by the way they treated Capcom in the west. It will take time and a good reason for them to go back to a Sony system after Sony blocked MHP3 HD for PS3. The reason why MH3U came out on the Wii U is totally Sony's fault.
| Nem said:
Stop thinking Sony were innocent in all this, they werent. Sony pushed Monster Hunter into Nintendo's hands by the way they treated Capcom in the west. It will take time and a good reason for them to go back to a Sony system after Sony blocked MHP3 HD for PS3. The reason why MH3U came out on the Wii U is totally Sony's. |
what excactly happend ?
i read somewhere the game was finished and almost translated to the western languages and sony said no ?
if they really said no capcom wasted a few $100k porting the game and never allowed to release it in the west ?
what was the reason for sony ? gamequality to low (even lower than shovelware) ? or other reasons ?
Lusche said:
if they really said no capcom wasted a few $100k porting the game and never allowed to release it in the west ? |
It had something to do with the firmware for the ad-hoc or something like that. Svensson told us the story once. I dont recall the exact details but it was something like there was a system with firmware or something like that that was used by Sony Japan. The same system was not in place on the American/european side and they kept saying they would do it but never did. Capcom was forced to cancel the title because of that.
It was pure complacement and Sony probably didnt think the game was worth the trouble. And here we are. Arrogance leads to these things.
| Nem said:
It had something to do with the firmware for the ad-hoc or something like that. Svensson told us the story once. I dont recall the exact details but it was something like there was a system with firmware or something like that that was used by Sony Japan. The same system was not in place on the American/european side and they kept saying they would do it but never did. Capcom was forced to cancel the title because of that. It was pure complacement and Sony probably didnt think the game was worth the trouble. And here we are. Arrogance leads to these things. |
thanks, no wonder capcom is pissed at sony ... (at least on the MH front, other games are still coming afaik)
at least I would if i was capcom ... wasting time and money on a game which can't get released
Lusche said:
if they really said no capcom wasted a few $100k porting the game and never allowed to release it in the west ? |
SCA refused to allow this game in the west because:
1. It lacked Trophies
2. Companys aren´t allowed to release PSP-HD collections if they don´t contain at least 2 games
3. Sony refused to update the Ad-hoc software in the West (they use a different version in Japan) which would mean that Capcom would have to make significant changes to the code
....add a very helpful Nintendo to the mix:
1.They won every single handheld generation since they created the market
2.They were very, very supportive (Nintendo of Europe translates and publishes Monster Hunter, Nintendo paid for the marketing campaign, Nintendo pays for the Servers for MH3U/Vanilla 3)
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