you talk like you have prove of everything you say.

HIgh price point: the system cost the same as PS3 and xbox360 and it has more features than those. If you say PS4 and 720 cost the same, then yes it has a high price point, until then you can't say that.

the gamedad: it is the best controller ever made, it does everything it has to do, and things you can't imagine. You don't have a Wii U, so you can't state that. PS4 and 720 are already following their steps, simply as that. You are going to see developers supporting those systems because they are fanboys.

underpowered hardware: Wii U is topping those 7 years old systems since launch, it can't do better yet beacuse the ports are based on those systems architecture, much more different from Wii U, PS4 and 720 (those 3 next gen are based on GPGPU architecture). Why don't you recall Need4Speed Wii U version, the best looking one, and performance wise not even a noticeable framerate drop (i can't say it doesn't have it because i don't ahve super eyes). Lego City: Undercover looks amazing, nothing others can do. It has their issues but we all know TT games are not "the developers". Why don't you wait until a first party title, to see what happen? jumping conclusion so ealry.

have you seen Nintendo doing something to turn things around? no, why?; I don't know. I would like to know but this is suspecious. There is no way a stubborn company like Nintendo, more than 100 years old, will give up so easily being the best developer in the last 30 years or so. 

Rockstar is the only developer I am concerning with respect to supporting the Wii U. EA is a liar. Richitello stretched Iwata and Reggie last E3 saying: "imagine playing Maden on the gamepad", "imagine playing Battlefield 4 on the new console with more power". Yes, check that out and you will see, EA is not worth as a developer, they don't care about anybody nor they do a good job with the likes of Sim City. But people still support them, specially other console gamers.

All things you say here are wrong, all of that is just becaue you haven't experienced Wii U completly, like most of the people saying the WIi U is garbage.

No, no we do not.  It seems like there are more of these threads every day

i honestly wanted a discussion that focus more on the strategies nintendo should take, so i was hoping for a more bussines oriented thread. though no problems did accure in the thread and everybody seems sensible, i know we been getting a lot of WiiU threads, but i was more interested in seeing what they might do and talk about it. for example should they do like the same they did with the 3DS and keep their essential strategy? or should they change their focus?

Change their focus?  They don't have that luxury.  They're a company that makes software that runs on their hardware.  There isn't anything else for them to do other than to continue making games that run on their hardware.  That's all they do.  It's not like they're Microsoft or Sony where they have the last resort option of dumping their game division if they can't make money from it.   It's their only purpose and their only division. 

bu changin their focus i mostly meant changing their target audience. Nintendo did say they wanted to sell to everybody, the casuals, the core, the family, the kids, pretty much everybody. should they change that goal? should they try focus on a single audience, sell to them to get the WiiU in a good sales position, then try to expand their target audience?

This.

Nintendo's secrecy is destroying them. People aren't excited by their upcoming games because we don't know when they're coming, and we're lucky if we get a snippet of new footage every few months. 

Oh, they'll post a bunch of LEGO City clips, but Bayonetta 2? Yarn Yoshi? X? Heck, even Wonderful 101 and Pikmin 3 barely see any new footage.

Show us the goddamn games already.

HIgh price point: the system cost the same as PS3 and xbox360 and it has more features than those. If you say PS4 and 720 cost the same, then yes it has a high price point, until then you can't say that.

i honestly wanted a discussion that focus more on the strategies nintendo should take, so i was hoping for a more bussines oriented thread. though no problems did accure in the thread and everybody seems sensible, i know we been getting a lot of WiiU threads, but i was more interested in seeing what they might do and talk about it. for example should they do like the same they did with the 3DS and keep their essential strategy? or should they change their focus?