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So moral of the day is: Accidentally killing a guy in China is a bad idea.



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Icy-Zone said:
I don't know the full story. This guy could be full of shit for all I know. And like Nikkom said, prison should never be a walk in the park.


Nah this story has been aired on our news a few times ( NZ news) but nz is to busy trying to get free trade agreements with China to worry about this small fry stuff.



Slimebeast said:
NiKKoM said:
It's just that a lot of western prisons are super comfy.. people shouldn't think prison is a nice place.. and were is the story of the man that died? maybe they got into argument before? maybe he was involved with the chinese mafia and they send thugs after him? Just because he has access to youtube doesn't mean this is the "real" China.. I have worked many times in china with no problems at all..

Yeah, that was a bit strange in this story. First he tells he was punched and attacked with a hard wooden chair and all of a sudden one of the thugs just died from a bleeding in the brain and that's that, then it's all about cockroaches, forced labor and sleeping in feces.


Look up his full story, he has a full write up and a book about the whole thing. There is also many news articles about it.



freedomland said:
And why is he writing on the paper like some advertisement, he would've talked, it could've been more convincing.

He's a big Bob Dylan fan.



think-man said:
Slimebeast said:
NiKKoM said:
It's just that a lot of western prisons are super comfy.. people shouldn't think prison is a nice place.. and were is the story of the man that died? maybe they got into argument before? maybe he was involved with the chinese mafia and they send thugs after him? Just because he has access to youtube doesn't mean this is the "real" China.. I have worked many times in china with no problems at all..

Yeah, that was a bit strange in this story. First he tells he was punched and attacked with a hard wooden chair and all of a sudden one of the thugs just died from a bleeding in the brain and that's that, then it's all about cockroaches, forced labor and sleeping in feces.


Look up his full story, he has a full write up and a book about the whole thing. There is also many news articles about it.

No, I can't be bothered. Why don't you give us the shorter version lol?



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dahuman said:

Religion is illegal in China, you are not allowed to bring bibles into the country, it's fine for Chinese people not in China of course. :P I for one am pro that because religion has brought nothing but trouble even in past Chinese history, it's a stupid thing when there was already confucius who did it and did it better without using religion as a backup. The problem is men's greed knows no bounds.


Freedom of religion is protected by China's constitution. Although it does have caveats relating to making sure that the practise remainds loyal to the state. ie, there are Catholics in China but they undergo rules to ensure that they don't take the religion over the state... if the state says X about abortion or condoms, than the China Catholic Church must also say X.

You can be a Catholic that belongs to the Vatican, rather than the State sanctioned version, but that offers no constitutional protection.



I don't know how accurate his story is, but I always find it funny when people get sentenced to prison in foreign countries and than expect special treatment. If you commit a crime in said country you shouldn't complain about the conditions of the prison in said country or expect to be shipped home for a slap on the wrist. Again don't know the accuracy of his story, but my comment is more in general and not to his specific incident.



I was walking down along the street and I heard this voice saying, "Good evening, Mr. Dowd." Well, I turned around and here was this big six-foot rabbit leaning up against a lamp-post. Well, I thought nothing of that because when you've lived in a town as long as I've lived in this one, you get used to the fact that everybody knows your name.

zhao3gold said:
At least, there is no racism in China. Human right? Why don't you America/Japanese/Europeanese think about what you did to Africa people in the past?

Stupid, so stupid..

在中国,很难成为一个种族主义者。我的意思是,中国有多少种族?:D

人们郑重讨论像这样思想上的东西是可笑的。可能是使得自己缺点的认识不太痛苦。



SamuelRSmith said:

You're also missing out the massively obvious one... Japanese.

Although this is understandable, as the schools maintain an extremely strong anti-Japanese education, mainly to distract attentions from the actions of China's own Government.

- Education in PRC is as much of an anti-Japanese as you're, say, anti-Chinese, i.e. not so much, just a lot of prejudice.

- Even if it's anti-Japanese as you say, I doubt they consider Japanese a racial defective people. It's hardly a racism.

- For nitpicking purposes. People stop calling every expression of intolerance a racism. Chinese and Japanese are of the same race more or less.



Jumpin said:
Salnax said:
My brother is going to China in a couple of months.

This is just the latest thing that has worried me about that decision.


It's silly to worry. I've been to China three times in the last 8 years, it was a surprisingly wonderful experience. The only place where I felt a little discomfort was in Hong Kong.

I would be much more worried in the US where there is a high crime rate, lots of murders, and all sorts of people with guns.

In the US, the crime rate has gone down considerably over the last decade. Also, most crime and gun violence in the US usually takes place in a lot of the major cities. Finally, most gun owners in the US keep their guns locked up at home. Only a few places like Texas allow people to be armed in public.

The crime rate also varries from state to state.



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