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CGI-Quality said:

Almost everyone, especially of late, complains about LIVE pricing. Nintendo fans, PC fans, PlayStation fans. I've seen it.

I'm not saying Nintendo and PC fans don't complain either. I'm just saying they don't do the bulk of it.



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curl-6 said:

If you're happy to let your opinions be determined on the aggregate of other people's opinions, that's cool. I'm not, but to each their own.

That's not an insult by the way.


Never said anything like that.

Some people though, can not like a game and understand that it's still a good game, just not for them. For example, I loved the shit out of MGS and MGS3. MGS2 was ok. I have tried like 4 times to get into MGS4 and just cannot. Probably for me, the worst game I have played this gen. But, I can still look at all the praise it gets, and all the sales it achieved, and understand it's a good game. Just not for me.

Seems you could learn a thing or two from that line of thinking.



J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
 

If you're happy to let your opinions be determined on the aggregate of other people's opinions, that's cool. I'm not, but to each their own.

That's not an insult by the way.


Never said anything like that.

Some people though, can not like a game and understand that it's still a good game, just not for them. For example, I loved the shit out of MGS and MGS3. MGS2 was ok. I have tried like 4 times to get into MGS4 and just cannot. Probably for me, the worst game I have played this gen. But, I can still look at all the praise it gets, and all the sales it achieved, and understand it's a good game. Just not for me.

Seems you could learn a thing or two from that line of thinking.

I can appreciate why other people might like a game. Like I said, it's all subjective. I understand why MGS4 was praised and sold well, but I still think it's horrible.



curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
 

If you're happy to let your opinions be determined on the aggregate of other people's opinions, that's cool. I'm not, but to each their own.

That's not an insult by the way.


Never said anything like that.

Some people though, can not like a game and understand that it's still a good game, just not for them. For example, I loved the shit out of MGS and MGS3. MGS2 was ok. I have tried like 4 times to get into MGS4 and just cannot. Probably for me, the worst game I have played this gen. But, I can still look at all the praise it gets, and all the sales it achieved, and understand it's a good game. Just not for me.

Seems you could learn a thing or two from that line of thinking.

I can appreciate why other people might like a game. Like I said, it's all subjective. I understand why MGS4 was praised and sold well, but I still think it's horrible.

If you truly appreciate it then you wouldn't pull such a stupid list of "shitty games" out to try and make your point. When you need to stoop to that, maybe you didn't have much of a point in the first place.



To get back on topic... the amount of negativity in sony threads yesterday was obscene



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walsufnir said:
curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.

So what is the absolute truth then? Anyone's single opinion?

I don't believe there is an absolute truth where game quality is concerned. 



because most of the members here is sony fans so i find it normal.



J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
 

If you're happy to let your opinions be determined on the aggregate of other people's opinions, that's cool. I'm not, but to each their own.

That's not an insult by the way.


Never said anything like that.

Some people though, can not like a game and understand that it's still a good game, just not for them. For example, I loved the shit out of MGS and MGS3. MGS2 was ok. I have tried like 4 times to get into MGS4 and just cannot. Probably for me, the worst game I have played this gen. But, I can still look at all the praise it gets, and all the sales it achieved, and understand it's a good game. Just not for me.

Seems you could learn a thing or two from that line of thinking.

I can appreciate why other people might like a game. Like I said, it's all subjective. I understand why MGS4 was praised and sold well, but I still think it's horrible.

If you truly appreciate it then you wouldn't pull such a stupid list of "shitty games" out to try and make your point. When you need to stoop to that, maybe you didn't have much of a point in the first place.

Someone seems upset. 

Who are you to say it's "stupid" to consider Call of Duty or Wii Play shitty? Are you a member of the opinion gestapo?



Mr Puggsly said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:

a company that went from this

 
to this

 

no, everything is fine yall. keep cheering for MS

Better to make that transition than...

to this

 

I love your example of a great Rare game is about 18 years old. I don't think the Xbox audience wants casual platformers. People who want that buy Nintendo consoles.

Sick comeback burn. Everyone knows only sony closes studios.



Mr Puggsly said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:

a company that went from this

 
to this

 

no, everything is fine yall. keep cheering for MS

Better to make that transition than...

to this

 

I love your example of a great Rare game is about 18 years old. I don't think the Xbox audience wants casual platformers. People who want that buy Nintendo consoles.

So the Xbox Audience wants Kinect Fitnessgames instead of GREAT Platformers?Is this why they didn't want Kameo sequels or games with that style?
Or is that Kinect Sports Game a hardcore title for the Xbox Community?I don't know cause im used to God of War,Zelda,Uncharted,Xenoblade and stuff...my taste is probably not compatible enough with those hardcore games.Maybe i should quit my Gym Membership :/

To be honest
Kameo was an insanely good title and is right now my favorite 360 Game.I loved to play it a lot.But that was i think in 2006 or so lol
Don't know why they didn't milk the crap out of that cause it really had a lot of potential and was one of the rare games that were really good and somehow unique.