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Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.



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J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.



curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.

Yeah, you already agreed that what you feel about Rare's games is nothing but subjective. What Carl argued was that while those games may be shit for you, to millions of other users (the people for whom the products of the current Rare are cattering to) they still make great games.



curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.


Hey man I think the sky is green and grass is blue. I don't care what the rest of the world thinks its just their opinions.



It's just a sign of the times.

Remember the time the PS3 released and it didn't have a lot of games?



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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a company that went from this

 
to this

 

no, everything is fine yall. keep cheering for MS



curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.

So what is the absolute truth then? Anyone's single opinion?



J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.


Hey man I think the sky is green and grass is blue. I don't care what the rest of the world thinks its just their opinions.


If you're happy to let your opinions be determined on the aggregate of other people's opinions, that's cool. I'm not, but to each their own.

That's not an insult by the way.



Hynad said:
curl-6 said:
J_Allard said:
Hynad said:
J_Allard said:
curl-6 said:
Carl2291 said:
And Im sick and tired of people saying Rare havent done anything worthwhile.

Rare have been key in the Kinect push. Rare have been key in the entire Xbox push towards a more casual consumer. Actually, Rare's involvement with Kinect and Avatars is probably the biggest and best thing the team has done since they started out.

Stop clinging on to the past. Look at whats happening now. Kinect Sports sold over 5.5 Million units. A shit game doesnt sell 5.5 Million units. Its Rare's most successful game ever. It sold more than Donkey Kong 64. It sold more than Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie combined. They created Viva Pinata which is a successful IP and guess what? Theyre currently making a bunch more new games for next gen AND Kinect.

Stop holding onto your past memories. Rare moved on for the better, you should too.

Shit games sell 5 million plus units all the time.

Kinect Sports is mediocre, just like Viva Pinata, just like Nuts 'n' Bolts, just like Starfox Adventures. (Yep, that's right, I'm not a Nintendo owner still upset they left, they were already a shadow of their former self before they left) Based on their last decade of work, I don't have faith that their next gen efforts will be any better.

Rare were once widely considered one of the best developers in the planet, now they're not even considered above average.

Really? Please list these "shit" games that sell 5,000,000+ "all the time". Should be a wildly entertaining list.

By shit games, what he really means is "games that I don't like".

Could be any games, really.


Aaaaand you called it.

94%, 87%, 88%, 89% meta scores, and one actual shit game.

Metascores are just a collection of opinions, they're not objective or any kind of absolute truth.

Yeah, you already agreed that what you feel about Rare's games is nothing but subjective. What Carl argued was that while those games may be shit for you, to millions of other users (the people for whom the products of the current Rare are cattering to) they still make great games.

And to millions of others, they don't.



DigitalDevilSummoner said:

a company that went from this

 
to this

 

no, everything is fine yall. keep cheering for MS

Better to make that transition than...

to this

 

I love your example of a great Rare game is about 18 years old. I don't think the Xbox audience wants casual platformers. People who want that buy Nintendo consoles.



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