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PlaystaionGamer on 25 February 2013

The Xbox3 will probs be more powerful but that doesn't bother me, I'm getting a PS4 for the same reason I got a PS3.. It has the best games!



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easyrider on 25 February 2013
raf40928 said:
drkohler said:
raf40928 said:


I built many custom PC's and faster memory often means very little in real word peformance.

Your small rant is so wrong I don't even know where to start so I just leave it at that. For the rest of the readers, the problem of what is faster - ddr3 or gddr5 - is a very complex question, and depends on many things but basically boils down to severely following programming models and how the memory transactions are wired into the system.. It has absolutely, but really absolutely nothing to do with harddisks. You can be 100.000% certain that both Sony and MS ran thousands of hours of code simulations to get to their preferred method. Both systems, PS4 and XBox720, have additional (bus-transactional) hardware that makes it essentially impossible to discuss the matter since we don't now what is going on on the busses when games are running on either system.


Im not wrong.. Go install faster ram in your home pc and see if it runs faster... It wont because its still waiting on the hardrive!  ( The slowest memory in any system ) ...Yes memory benchmarks will be faster.. But REAL world improvements will be minor .. In x86 the games are built around the gpu.. The gpu will affect fill rates and whether the system studders during gaming much more then GDDR memory speed.. If Ms was using 10 year old DDR - then yes you'd be right!  But they arent... Sony is using GDDR5 and for what reason?  The game will be loading while playing- from the hard drive and possibly the 6x bluray player.. Data will be going across the system bus much slower then the faster pieces will process it.. The point is until Sony and Ms put Solid State Hardrives ( that cost too much right now ) in their consoles.. Some components can be overkill.. Computer makers have done it for YEARS: Mated faster memory with a high end cpu and the system was still dependent on the slower bus and hardrive!  

 

 My point is GDDR5 is overkill with a midrange graphics card! And as long as data is streaming from a hard drive or even worse - an optical drive such as bluray then the system is bogged down.. The faster components help to an extent but they have to wait on data to come in from the slower pieces even though those faster pieces are capable of going much quicker



Interesting Reads. I really don't understand all the lingo but yours seems to make the most sense. Thanks for the good read. LOL



baph7667 on 25 February 2013

The only way the 720 could be any noticeably more powerful is if it was more expensive. Surely if they put in 12GB of DDR5 Ram, that's bound to bring the price up to the $500 to $600 price range. Now they could decided to take a loss on each console sold, but would they really be willing to take a significant loss on each one after what happened with rlod? The current prices for 360s suggests otherwise. So, I wouldn't look for it to be drastically more powerful if it is more powerful.

Then you've got the fact that they still also have to become synonymous with more than Halo and Gears to really catch on worldwide to avoid a repeat of this gen.



easyrider on 25 February 2013
baph7667 said:
The only way the 720 could be any noticeably more powerful is if it was more expensive. Surely if they put in 12GB of DDR5 Ram, that's bound to bring the price up to the $500 to $600 price range. Now they could decided to take a loss on each console sold, but would they really be willing to take a significant loss on each one after what happened with rlod? The current prices for 360s suggests otherwise. So, I wouldn't look for it to be drastically more powerful if it is more powerful.

Then you've got the fact that they still also have to become synonymous with more than Halo and Gears to really catch on worldwide to avoid a repeat of this gen.



What was the repeat of this gen?  Selling, 3x the amount as last and still selling. Getting a big portion of sony's exclusive's to come on over to 360. Making a sh-t ton of cash and lets not forget that they have been building up studio's. As I see it, they have positioned themselfs great for the next generation. If they have as much success in how much they progressed. Next gen is going to blow up for them.

I agree they need more first party support but to avoid the level of success and progress is putting your head in the sand 

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Mnementh on 25 February 2013
pokoko said:
Why? Would that make 8GB of GDDR5 RAM less filled with rammy goodness? Would Killzone:S suddenly look worse than it did the day before?

Honestly, I can't imagine the difference will be meaningful either way. Uncharted 4-6 will look fantastic. Halo 5-7 will look fantastic. Third-party games will probably be identical.

The only difference would be that the 720 would become the new focus of all the "PC LOOKS BETTER" threads.

It did matter for all the 'PS4 is so much better than WiiU' and 'WiiU is last gen tech'-threads. What if Nextbox makes PS4 look like last-gen tech? Not that I believe that will happen, but that was what the OP asked.



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HesAPooka on 25 February 2013
Mnementh said:
pokoko said:
Why? Would that make 8GB of GDDR5 RAM less filled with rammy goodness? Would Killzone:S suddenly look worse than it did the day before?

Honestly, I can't imagine the difference will be meaningful either way. Uncharted 4-6 will look fantastic. Halo 5-7 will look fantastic. Third-party games will probably be identical.

The only difference would be that the 720 would become the new focus of all the "PC LOOKS BETTER" threads.

It did matter for all the 'PS4 is so much better than WiiU' and 'WiiU is last gen tech'-threads. What if Nextbox makes PS4 look like last-gen tech? Not that I believe that will happen, but that was what the OP asked.

Then no one will buy it because it will be way too expensive.



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Mnementh on 25 February 2013
HesAPooka said:
Mnementh said:
pokoko said:
Why? Would that make 8GB of GDDR5 RAM less filled with rammy goodness? Would Killzone:S suddenly look worse than it did the day before?

Honestly, I can't imagine the difference will be meaningful either way. Uncharted 4-6 will look fantastic. Halo 5-7 will look fantastic. Third-party games will probably be identical.

The only difference would be that the 720 would become the new focus of all the "PC LOOKS BETTER" threads.

It did matter for all the 'PS4 is so much better than WiiU' and 'WiiU is last gen tech'-threads. What if Nextbox makes PS4 look like last-gen tech? Not that I believe that will happen, but that was what the OP asked.

Then no one will buy it because it will be way too expensive.

Yes probably, but MS-fans will always point out that PS4 is not truly in the same gen.



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HesAPooka on 25 February 2013
Mnementh said:
HesAPooka said:
Mnementh said:
pokoko said:
Why? Would that make 8GB of GDDR5 RAM less filled with rammy goodness? Would Killzone:S suddenly look worse than it did the day before?

Honestly, I can't imagine the difference will be meaningful either way. Uncharted 4-6 will look fantastic. Halo 5-7 will look fantastic. Third-party games will probably be identical.

The only difference would be that the 720 would become the new focus of all the "PC LOOKS BETTER" threads.

It did matter for all the 'PS4 is so much better than WiiU' and 'WiiU is last gen tech'-threads. What if Nextbox makes PS4 look like last-gen tech? Not that I believe that will happen, but that was what the OP asked.

Then no one will buy it because it will be way too expensive.

Yes probably, but MS-fans will always point out that PS4 is not truly in the same gen.


Really, why is that?



I was walking down along the street and I heard this voice saying, "Good evening, Mr. Dowd." Well, I turned around and here was this big six-foot rabbit leaning up against a lamp-post. Well, I thought nothing of that because when you've lived in a town as long as I've lived in this one, you get used to the fact that everybody knows your name.

Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 25 February 2013
Slimebeast said:
Yes, it would be hilarious but sadly the Xbox 720 will be much weaker than the PS4.


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Slimebeast on 25 February 2013
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Slimebeast said:
Yes, it would be hilarious but sadly the Xbox 720 will be much weaker than the PS4.


Awoken from your hibernation? have you mr. 6mil?

What do you mean "mr. 6 mil"? Halo 4 sales lol?