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Yakuzaice on 01 February 2013
the_dengle said:

Those pointing out how poorly Madden 13 sold on Wii U -- yeah, and it launched 2.5 months after the other versions, towards the end of football season, with lesser features.

They released a gimped version late. Of course it sold horribly. If they were willing to release an equal version at the same time, it might actually (gasp) sell pretty well.

I'm surprised no one else has noted the absense of a Vita version.

These are the exact same issues the PS3 and 360 Maddens had when they launched.  Both launched months after the PS2 era versions, and both were missing features.  Yet the sales difference is massive.



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Mr Khan on 01 February 2013
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

Which is much better than the Wii U version currently.

The writing is clear as day that EA has worked to self-sabotage their Wii U offerings so that they can, henceforth, justify releasing 0 games on the platform.

I can only hope that heads roll in the EA boardroom because of this.

So they made their games bomb on purpose? How does that even make sense? If they don't want to make games for the Wii U, there is nothing to stop them from saying, "Fuck U, we're not making games for the Wii U."

Because investors would ask questions. If you send a couple games out to die and eat the loss, you shut down objections.

Either that, or the games that we did end up getting were too far along in development before EA and Nintendo had their falling-out, so EA just gimped the projects and dumped out whatever existed.

I mean, the language you're hearing from them recently is "fuck 'em, we're not making games for that," certainly. But they'll use the deliberately-poor games they put out as a "sound" reason, which people unwilling to accept the fact that EA's leadership is fundamentally irrational will use to defend their sleaze for the rest of the generation.



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chris_wing on 01 February 2013
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

Which is much better than the Wii U version currently.

The writing is clear as day that EA has worked to self-sabotage their Wii U offerings so that they can, henceforth, justify releasing 0 games on the platform.

I can only hope that heads roll in the EA boardroom because of this.

So they made their games bomb on purpose? How does that even make sense? If they don't want to make games for the Wii U, there is nothing to stop them from saying, "Fuck U, we're not making games for the Wii U."

I think the theory that people have is that they provide late (ME3, NFS) and gimped (Madden) games to create a set of sales data that they can show to investors to avoid any legal action by not supporting a console and potentialy loosing revenue.

Why would they want to not support a platform that could provide revenue?

1-A grudge against Nintendo for not going alone with Origin

2-To streamline the development process of current gen & next gen games by sticking to the market leaders, which could save more money then it could potentially bring in.



ps3-sales! on 01 February 2013

That's just weird. Weren't the Madden games all on the Wii?



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Mandalore76 on 01 February 2013
Yakuzaice said:

Considering the sales, it wouldn't be all that surprising if true.  If the 3DS version's sales didn't merit continued support, then it only makes sense as the Wii U's Madden sales were even worse.

To compare to other new consoles first Madden after 9 weeks in the USA.

360: 313,817
PS3: 222,265
3DS: 32,231
Wii U: 21,169

It just doesn't seem financially viable.

3DS version had poor sales, because it was a stripped down piece of garbage.  I know that for a fact, because I saw it at Barnes & Noble for $7.50 and I gave it a try.  Even at that price, it was a waste.  And when you look at install bases, a higher percentage of Wii U owners bought Madden than 360 or PS3 owners in your comparison.  I just picked up Madden 13 for Wii U last Friday, and it's not bad.  Others might be balking though because EA didn't put their new physics engine in the Wii U game that the 360/PS3 versions got.



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SxyxS on 01 February 2013
Yakuzaice said:
the_dengle said:

Those pointing out how poorly Madden 13 sold on Wii U -- yeah, and it launched 2.5 months after the other versions, towards the end of football season, with lesser features.

They released a gimped version late. Of course it sold horribly. If they were willing to release an equal version at the same time, it might actually (gasp) sell pretty well.

I'm surprised no one else has noted the absense of a Vita version.

These are the exact same issues the PS3 and 360 Maddens had when they launched.  Both launched months after the PS2 era versions, and both were missing features.  Yet the sales difference is massive.

even the vita version sold more:23k



badgenome on 01 February 2013
chris_wing said:

I think the theory that people have is that they provide late (ME3, NFS) and gimped (Madden) games to create a set of sales data that they can show to investors to avoid any legal action by not supporting a console and potentialy loosing revenue.

Why would they want to not support a platform that could provide revenue?

1-A grudge against Nintendo for not going alone with Origin

2-To streamline the development process of current gen & next gen games by sticking to the market leaders, which could save more money then it could potentially bring in.

3. Launch games are usually rushed because they sell like shit, so third parties rarely bother to put any real effort into them unless incentivized by the first party to do so.



superchunk on 01 February 2013

Madden has to come to every console per the NFL contract. So this is missing several other platforms.



the_dengle on 01 February 2013
SxyxS said:
Yakuzaice said:
the_dengle said:

Those pointing out how poorly Madden 13 sold on Wii U -- yeah, and it launched 2.5 months after the other versions, towards the end of football season, with lesser features.

They released a gimped version late. Of course it sold horribly. If they were willing to release an equal version at the same time, it might actually (gasp) sell pretty well.

I'm surprised no one else has noted the absense of a Vita version.

These are the exact same issues the PS3 and 360 Maddens had when they launched.  Both launched months after the PS2 era versions, and both were missing features.  Yet the sales difference is massive.

even the vita version sold more:23k

You mean the Vita version that had a simultaneous release with the other versions? The Vita version that released to a console with an actual install base (albeit a small one) in America?



chris_wing on 01 February 2013
superchunk said:
Madden has to come to every console per the NFL contract. So this is missing several other platforms.


Only if they hit a sales threshold with the previous years version, clearly the 3DS also missed the threshold since there hasn't been a 3DS madden since the Launch of the system.