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kitler53 on 14 January 2013
KHlover said:

At least us WiiU and Vita fans can cry into sleep together. Way to improve the relationship between Sony and Nintendo fans :D

lol, i hope it does.

unrelated but fun all the same...



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Mnementh on 14 January 2013
KHlover said:

At least us WiiU and Vita fans can cry into sleep together. Way to improve the relationship between Sony and Nintendo fans :D


Hehe. Unite Sony-fans and Nintendo-fans to stand together against the evil MS-empire.



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KHlover on 14 January 2013
Mnementh said:
KHlover said:

At least us WiiU and Vita fans can cry into sleep together. Way to improve the relationship between Sony and Nintendo fans :D


Hehe. Unite Sony-fans and Nintendo-fans to stand together against the evil MS-empire.

Stop putting words in my mouth. That's not what I wanted to state with that post :P



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ManUtdFan on 14 January 2013
Mummelmann said:
Barozi said:
Nintendo won't and can't slash the price by $50 let alone $100 this early.


Precisely, its basic maths. The Wii U is already selling at a loss, if Nintendo cut the price by a full 100$ they would likely sell at a loss far into 2014 (probably the whole year, the Gamepad is rather costly to produce even if the other hardware components drop drastically in price) and that would spell true disaster, by that time the 3DS won't be pulling in enough cash to cover the losses and since Nintendo live solely off of gaming, they can't afford to let cash trickle out of the company, as opposed to MS, for instance.

How do you know for sure it's selling at a loss? I thought Nintendo always made profit on every machine sold. 



GameAnalyser on 14 January 2013
platformmaster918 said:
hatmoza said:
Chandler said:
hatmoza said:
*looks at Vita and WiiU sales*
HAHA! The doom has been doubled!
cookie for reference.

 

You mean, Wii U is the second rider of the apocalypse?

 


Well... er... no that's not the reference but you are correct that this is the second rider of the apocalypse. The remaining two horsemen will appear with the releases of the next two major consoles. Then may God have mercy on our souls.

Vita is death.  720 is famine (because Xbox gamers have been starved of a new console for the longest).  PS is war (because they wage war on Microsoft for specs and cause their death financially).  WiiU is pestilence because A. Nothing else is left and B. it preyed on the disease of casual gamers and now suffers their ipad loving ways!

The metaphors sound good. Well, it's a matter of time to know which ones actually turn out to be the same.



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Soleron on 14 January 2013
ManUtdFan said:
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How do you know for sure it's selling at a loss? I thought Nintendo always made profit on every machine sold. 

It's official.



Mummelmann on 14 January 2013
ManUtdFan said:
Mummelmann said:
Barozi said:
Nintendo won't and can't slash the price by $50 let alone $100 this early.


Precisely, its basic maths. The Wii U is already selling at a loss, if Nintendo cut the price by a full 100$ they would likely sell at a loss far into 2014 (probably the whole year, the Gamepad is rather costly to produce even if the other hardware components drop drastically in price) and that would spell true disaster, by that time the 3DS won't be pulling in enough cash to cover the losses and since Nintendo live solely off of gaming, they can't afford to let cash trickle out of the company, as opposed to MS, for instance.

How do you know for sure it's selling at a loss? I thought Nintendo always made profit on every machine sold. 

This is pretty much common information for most people in here, Nintendo themselves have stated that they are dependent on selling one piece of software with every unit to be profitable overall. Hardware sold at a small loss (how small is hard to say but a 100$ price cut would make a 20$ loss truly massive at 120$, or about 50% of the retail price).

Cutting the price so soon would be a two-fold disaster; it would net them a large loss on hardware sales, one not offset by selling merely one software unit along with the machine and it would also send signals to the public, the investors and the competition that they are weakened and on the defensive and have completely misread the market.



michael_stutzer on 14 January 2013

I don't really care about the Wii U, bıt if the Wii U numbers are correct ( I doubt it) then it spells doom for the new XBOX and PS.



Soleron on 14 January 2013
Mummelmann said:
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This is pretty much common information for most people in here, Nintendo themselves have stated that they are dependent on selling one piece of software with every unit to be profitable overall. Hwardware sold at a small loss (how small is hard to say but a 100$ price cut would make a 20$ loss truly massive at 120$, or about 50% of the retail price).

It got revised to "more than one".



ManUtdFan on 14 January 2013
dsgrue3 said:
kowenicki said:
we've had his discussion already.

Lets cut to the chase.

I say PS3 and 360 down 35% plus this year.

What do you say?


360 will be 35% plus down.

PS3 won't. Simple.


More likely 360 will be down 35% and PS3 ~ 25-30% down. Checked amazon.com bestsellers list a few times last week, and sony had 3 ps3 packs in top 50, 3 xbox360 packs were 51-100, and Wii U wasn't even there. 

You said in another thread 'PS3 would die on its arse this year' so how well do you think the Wii U will sell?