it is a sales site and thus those bicker backer feuds build over time,there has always been stealth trolling and bait threads not an issue for me,swings and roundabouts as they say

relentless screaming fanboys and people who pretend they are not fanboys but balanced and unbiased are probably the most annoying but anything can lead to some funny threads and battles

i agree that people need to have thicker skin and maybe just tackle fanboys/trolls if you feel that strongly about it or enjoy it for what it is

i don't want to read long posted debates every thread i click on surely there is room for a bit of everything

This.  I dunno how to react to it really.  If it's just blatant trolling you just report and walk away, or ignore and go do something else.  But if it's stealth trolling they're not really breaking any rules (I don't think) so you just have to ignore it and they get away with doing it again and again.

OT: Sometimes it annoys me, and I think "Why am I coming to this site just to read this shit?"

I think there's been a lack of in-depth discussion lately just because there's been a lot going on.  Loads of new numbers everywhere including holiday-boost figures, new console launch to discuss etc.  It's no real excuse, but still.

It should blow over.  There's still plenty of decent people discussing interesting stuff.  You just have to try and not get bogged down by everything else!

If you don't see the difference between my typo on "fosters" and Spurge's constant typos in almost every post I see of him, and his way of constructing posts in a way that's barely comprehensible a lot of the time, there's an issue right there.

I personally know Ryan is capable of more, and I know that he is not putting the effort to fix that. In my posts, I hope you can tell I put an effort to make them of value.

Yes, I meant to spell that fosters, and I often make the "no one", "a lot" mistakes, but that's something I can and have fixed (I fixed the a lot one, but wasn't aware that noone was a typo). Anyway, if you read up on it, noone is actually used (though not often), it just could be considered ambiguous and could cause improper pronunciation (though apparently cooperate was free of that, so). Anyway, the link to my study on the matter. For you I will start using "no one", because you equate my typos to Ryan's that's something that can't be helped. Unless you're trying to prove a point, in which case we have another problem altogether.

And yes, I'm French Canadian. I nevertheless do my best to write the best English that I can.

As for being busy as a mod, who wouldn't understand that. But you realize that you're part of a bigger team, I can't expect all the mods to be super busy. I'm a working man, but I don't work 60+ hours a week. I just work 40, because that's all my little mind can handle. More than that, and I burn out. I know, I've been there.

I understand you can be busy, but you can't speak on behalf of the whole mod team as if they're all busy, that's ridiculous.

Also, you'll see from my thread that the mod's input was but one of many solutions I offered. I personally don't believe in the mod team as being the fix-all solution to the forums' problems, never have. I am friends with many of them and respect them as people, not as some foreign deity that can't be worked with. I know that I play my part in this forum, and this thread is one effort to poke peoples' opinions on a core matter on the forum.

The Nazi modding was just one of many solutions offered. I personally don't believe in it, but it could be looked into.

Have you guys ever looked into coaching some users? I mean, it would probably require a heavier commitment, but I'm sure some users would be more than happy to talk with the mods. I personally love the few personal chats I have with the mods, talking informally about how I can be a better poster, even a better person. I find respect usually fosters that kind of relationship.

Idk I don't have the answers, and I don't think you do either, and that's why I made this thread, to talk about it. I'm not expecting a rehashed response from you or from any of the mods, I'm looking for some dialogue. The mods I find have a tendency to make these big-ass paragraphs that are all chewed up, but you could actually try to reason it out with us too.

Thanks Amp.

I'm thinking, even if there is no trolling, do you think it's important that when debates get heated, that it's important for the health of the forum for people to be mature about it?

I know personally I have a hard time keeping a cool head. How does that factor into the equation? This is something I'd personally like to talk about.

Even if I'm not flaming per se, I know I'm being aggressive or hostile and it's bad. What's your view on that?

I know that I can get accusatory, but you realize you're just repeating what tads said, and you're ignoring the fact that I know Ryan pretty well, and that I know he's capable of better.

He even said so himself, it's because he's on a mobile. Well, look Carl also is on a mobile and he puts the effort to correct his mistakes.

I am a person who tends to call others out, but in this case I wasn't saying anything Ryan didn't already know.

Also, if you want me not to throw stones, you might as well not do it yourself. As I said to tads, my typos are not at all in the same nature as Ryans, and only someone who hasn't been paying attention would make that correlation.

I'm a horrible speller. And it has nothing to do with intelligence. Sometimes, people like me go the first 8 years of their life not hearing correctly and spell like the hear. I had speech class and everything when I was little, but the spelling never changed and my ears never truly got corrected till i was nearly 13. Even till this day i still have a hard time with spelling and spell better on a keyboard. Due mostly to mussel memory. Get me in front of a pen and it's all down hill again. So in short, spelling ability isn't directly linked to intelligence and you can see why it ticks me off a little when people confuse the two.

what's a troll?

Of course there are exception cases. But in general, that's what it is. Is being unintelligent a bad thing even? Maybe it isn't.

But someone who IS intelligent and acts stupidly (troll) is where the problem is.

Hence, knowing how to spell and not putting the effort to is a bad practice imho.

Esp., did you miss the part where Spurge knows how to spell, and is running off a mobile? He could spell better, he isn't putting in the effort to. It's just a minor example of a much bigger problem: ie people not putting the effort to make posts that are of value and spur intelligent debate.

Of course some threads can be more light-hearted, but there needs to be a balance. At least, where there is intelligent debate, I hope people go in with a more proactive attitude, personally.

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brace yourselves!!!!!!!!! he's right on all accounts. wht?? well except the cult part, but it's funny.

i'd say consumers that plan to buy Vita, maybe 90% of them are wait for a price drop. big number right? other then 3ds wht other handheld had a home console price tag attached to it?

i would further divulge my opinion on wht would happen if Vita go a price cut, but i'll digress for the moment.