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S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
Because some people never grow up mentally. They never conquer their insecurities, and live their whole lives with the mind of a fearful teenager.


Not true, it has nothing to do with insecurity.

Insecurity is a cornerstone of fanboyism. If you weren't insecure, you wouldn't feel the need to aggressively defend a platform and put down others.

Not true, it's called personal preference. You believe another product on its own delivers a superior product. For some it could be any of the three. The insecurity of fanboyism is wanting what the other person has that you don't have (exclusives), or in the insecurity in your value of what SHOULD be "fun" (public perception). The issue of Nintendo is they are considered the Disney of the gaming industry and if you asked the average person who they would buy a Nintendo product for they would say their wife or child where as on the purchasing scheme the competitors are dominated by males above the teenage age.  

I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about reactions like the OP's "gay, get a PS3." And "Lolz only babiez play on teh Wee!1" Mature, secure individuals don't behave like  that.



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biggamejames79 said:
ps3 seems more powerful until you try to play Fallout 3/NV or Skyrim on it, then it seems like cheap/faulty/difficult to program for hardware. It has some great games, but "power" isn't everything. Wii was the top dog in the 7th gen and it's the least powerful, not even in HD.

Those aren't examples of cheap/faulty/difficult to program for. Those are examples of what happens when you make shitty ports of games.

Bayonetta devs Platinum, for example apologized profusely for outsourcing teh ps3 port and not developing it themselves. This is simply what happens when you're a dev and you do a bad job.



curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
Because some people never grow up mentally. They never conquer their insecurities, and live their whole lives with the mind of a fearful teenager.


Not true, it has nothing to do with insecurity.

Insecurity is a cornerstone of fanboyism. If you weren't insecure, you wouldn't feel the need to aggressively defend a platform and put down others.

Not true, it's called personal preference. You believe another product on its own delivers a superior product. For some it could be any of the three. The insecurity of fanboyism is wanting what the other person has that you don't have (exclusives), or in the insecurity in your value of what SHOULD be "fun" (public perception). The issue of Nintendo is they are considered the Disney of the gaming industry and if you asked the average person who they would buy a Nintendo product for they would say their wife or child where as on the purchasing scheme the competitors are dominated by males above the teenage age.  

I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about reactions like the OP's "gay, get a PS3." And "Lolz only babiez play on teh Wee!1" Mature, secure individuals don't behave like  that.


Oh my friend, there is an insecurity which drives preference and that creates something called bias. Thats because they are some  people who have given up their childhood things or don't have a family which tends to turn the family switch back on in the brain (generally in males). Would you go to Disney World without a child ? Just asking. Tell me would you like to go to Universal Studios or Disney World? (Seriously, answer it) After you reach a certain age most people either grow out of videogames or attach themselves to the more adult friendly content, much like TV Shows or movies. This is the run-off audience Microsoft and Sony alluded to when they spoke poorly of the Wii's hold on the core gamer, basically calling the Wii the "beginners system". Am I making any sense?



S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
Because some people never grow up mentally. They never conquer their insecurities, and live their whole lives with the mind of a fearful teenager.


Not true, it has nothing to do with insecurity.

Insecurity is a cornerstone of fanboyism. If you weren't insecure, you wouldn't feel the need to aggressively defend a platform and put down others.

Not true, it's called personal preference. You believe another product on its own delivers a superior product. For some it could be any of the three. The insecurity of fanboyism is wanting what the other person has that you don't have (exclusives), or in the insecurity in your value of what SHOULD be "fun" (public perception). The issue of Nintendo is they are considered the Disney of the gaming industry and if you asked the average person who they would buy a Nintendo product for they would say their wife or child where as on the purchasing scheme the competitors are dominated by males above the teenage age.  

I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about reactions like the OP's "gay, get a PS3." And "Lolz only babiez play on teh Wee!1" Mature, secure individuals don't behave like  that.


Oh my friend, there is an insecurity which drives preference and that creates something called bias. Thats because they are some  people who have given up their childhood things or don't have a family which tends to turn the family switch back on in the brain (generally in males). Would you go to Disney World without a child ? Just asking. Tell me would you like to go to Universal Studios or Disney World? (Seriously, answer it) After you reach a certain age most people either grow out of videogames or attach themselves to the more adult friendly content, much like TV Shows or movies. This is the run-off audience Microsoft and Sony alluded to when they spoke poorly of the Wii's hold on the core gamer, basically calling the Wii the "beginners system". Am I making any sense?

Not really into Disney, even as a kid I wasn't, but just this weekend I went to an amusement park without a child. I don't see the point of giving up fun things just because I'm reached a certain age, and I'm not insecure enough to be worried about "what will people think of me?"



theprof00 said:
biggamejames79 said:
ps3 seems more powerful until you try to play Fallout 3/NV or Skyrim on it, then it seems like cheap/faulty/difficult to program for hardware. It has some great games, but "power" isn't everything. Wii was the top dog in the 7th gen and it's the least powerful, not even in HD.

Those aren't examples of cheap/faulty/difficult to program for. Those are examples of what happens when you make shitty ports of games.

Bayonetta devs Platinum, for example apologized profusely for outsourcing teh ps3 port and not developing it themselves. This is simply what happens when you're a dev and you do a bad job.

That's true, and that also may be why a lot of multi-plat games look better on the 360 compared to the ps3.  There's a lot more to a systems value than "power".  I've read that the ps3 has a stronger cpu but the 360 has a better gpu, meaning the graphical power of the 360 is higher than ps3's.  I understand people's desire to have the most powerful system since we all want to see amazing graphics, but from what I've seen there's not enough of a difference between the ps3 & 360 for anyone to brag about one over the other.  If graphics mattered that much, we'd only play pc.  Maybe fanboys are like sports fans, I back my teams no matter what, maybe people back companies in the same way.



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"the Wii is gay"
its so stupid and senseless thats actually funny
these kind of comments come from people that arent really into videogames, so dont worry dude
its just the typical ignorance



curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
Because some people never grow up mentally. They never conquer their insecurities, and live their whole lives with the mind of a fearful teenager.


Not true, it has nothing to do with insecurity.

Insecurity is a cornerstone of fanboyism. If you weren't insecure, you wouldn't feel the need to aggressively defend a platform and put down others.

Not true, it's called personal preference. You believe another product on its own delivers a superior product. For some it could be any of the three. The insecurity of fanboyism is wanting what the other person has that you don't have (exclusives), or in the insecurity in your value of what SHOULD be "fun" (public perception). The issue of Nintendo is they are considered the Disney of the gaming industry and if you asked the average person who they would buy a Nintendo product for they would say their wife or child where as on the purchasing scheme the competitors are dominated by males above the teenage age.  

I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about reactions like the OP's "gay, get a PS3." And "Lolz only babiez play on teh Wee!1" Mature, secure individuals don't behave like  that.


Oh my friend, there is an insecurity which drives preference and that creates something called bias. Thats because they are some  people who have given up their childhood things or don't have a family which tends to turn the family switch back on in the brain (generally in males). Would you go to Disney World without a child ? Just asking. Tell me would you like to go to Universal Studios or Disney World? (Seriously, answer it) After you reach a certain age most people either grow out of videogames or attach themselves to the more adult friendly content, much like TV Shows or movies. This is the run-off audience Microsoft and Sony alluded to when they spoke poorly of the Wii's hold on the core gamer, basically calling the Wii the "beginners system". Am I making any sense?

Not really into Disney, even as a kid I wasn't, but just this weekend I went to an amusement park without a child. I don't see the point of giving up fun things just because I'm reached a certain age, and I'm not insecure enough to be worried about "what will people think of me?"

I did not bring up just any amusement park, but brought up Disney because they market themselves with similar themes to Nintendo, which endears them mostly to women and children in style and substance. You will generally find men in Universal Studios. Its not insecurity in what people think others think of them, its actually what they think about themselves. As I said when people grow up most of them turn the child or gaming switch off. For most adults who play Nintendo products it invites the inner child, both in substance and color pallet and surveys find that children take to Nintendos offerings better than the competitors. Thats because they are created to and there is no shame in it. Liking Nintendo is inviting your inner child, and there are gamers who refuse to let that inner child back out. This is the bias I speak of.



Well his response is childish and dismissive, while yours seems to want to engage him in an argument.

An awkward conversation all round.

As for adults being fanboys, there's examples of it everywhere. Even on this site. It's not something that appears to diminish with age for some people, in fact it may even cause them become increasingly narrow minded and less accepting the older and longer they stick to their bias and beliefs. Try as some people might, communication channels which are a tool to educate, inform and change peoples attitudes meet a brick wall against the resolve and deep rooted prejudice some of these people hold in the face of viable alternatives. I actually think many of them might not ever change.



 

S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

Insecurity is a cornerstone of fanboyism. If you weren't insecure, you wouldn't feel the need to aggressively defend a platform and put down others.

Not true, it's called personal preference. You believe another product on its own delivers a superior product. For some it could be any of the three. The insecurity of fanboyism is wanting what the other person has that you don't have (exclusives), or in the insecurity in your value of what SHOULD be "fun" (public perception). The issue of Nintendo is they are considered the Disney of the gaming industry and if you asked the average person who they would buy a Nintendo product for they would say their wife or child where as on the purchasing scheme the competitors are dominated by males above the teenage age.  

I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about reactions like the OP's "gay, get a PS3." And "Lolz only babiez play on teh Wee!1" Mature, secure individuals don't behave like  that.


Oh my friend, there is an insecurity which drives preference and that creates something called bias. Thats because they are some  people who have given up their childhood things or don't have a family which tends to turn the family switch back on in the brain (generally in males). Would you go to Disney World without a child ? Just asking. Tell me would you like to go to Universal Studios or Disney World? (Seriously, answer it) After you reach a certain age most people either grow out of videogames or attach themselves to the more adult friendly content, much like TV Shows or movies. This is the run-off audience Microsoft and Sony alluded to when they spoke poorly of the Wii's hold on the core gamer, basically calling the Wii the "beginners system". Am I making any sense?

Not really into Disney, even as a kid I wasn't, but just this weekend I went to an amusement park without a child. I don't see the point of giving up fun things just because I'm reached a certain age, and I'm not insecure enough to be worried about "what will people think of me?"

I did not bring up just any amusement park, but brought up Disney because they market themselves with similar themes to Nintendo, which endears them mostly to women and children in style and substance. You will generally find men in Universal Studios. Its not insecurity in what people think others think of them, its actually what they think about themselves. As I said when people grow up most of them turn the child or gaming switch off. For most adults who play Nintendo products it invites the inner child, both in substance and color pallet and surveys find that children take to Nintendos offerings better than the competitors. Thats because they are created to and there is no shame in it. Liking Nintendo is inviting your inner child, and there are gamers who refuse to let that inner child back out. This is the bias I speak of.

I'd still argue that the primary motivator behind comments like "Wii is gay" is insecurity; the need to justify one's (differing) console of choice so they feel like they made a good decision when purchasing it, the fear of being seen as "gay/kiddie/etc" themselves if they were open to it.



curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
curl-6 said:

Insecurity is a cornerstone of fanboyism. If you weren't insecure, you wouldn't feel the need to aggressively defend a platform and put down others.

Not true, it's called personal preference. You believe another product on its own delivers a superior product. For some it could be any of the three. The insecurity of fanboyism is wanting what the other person has that you don't have (exclusives), or in the insecurity in your value of what SHOULD be "fun" (public perception). The issue of Nintendo is they are considered the Disney of the gaming industry and if you asked the average person who they would buy a Nintendo product for they would say their wife or child where as on the purchasing scheme the competitors are dominated by males above the teenage age.  

I'm not talking about personal preference, I'm talking about reactions like the OP's "gay, get a PS3." And "Lolz only babiez play on teh Wee!1" Mature, secure individuals don't behave like  that.


Oh my friend, there is an insecurity which drives preference and that creates something called bias. Thats because they are some  people who have given up their childhood things or don't have a family which tends to turn the family switch back on in the brain (generally in males). Would you go to Disney World without a child ? Just asking. Tell me would you like to go to Universal Studios or Disney World? (Seriously, answer it) After you reach a certain age most people either grow out of videogames or attach themselves to the more adult friendly content, much like TV Shows or movies. This is the run-off audience Microsoft and Sony alluded to when they spoke poorly of the Wii's hold on the core gamer, basically calling the Wii the "beginners system". Am I making any sense?

Not really into Disney, even as a kid I wasn't, but just this weekend I went to an amusement park without a child. I don't see the point of giving up fun things just because I'm reached a certain age, and I'm not insecure enough to be worried about "what will people think of me?"

I did not bring up just any amusement park, but brought up Disney because they market themselves with similar themes to Nintendo, which endears them mostly to women and children in style and substance. You will generally find men in Universal Studios. Its not insecurity in what people think others think of them, its actually what they think about themselves. As I said when people grow up most of them turn the child or gaming switch off. For most adults who play Nintendo products it invites the inner child, both in substance and color pallet and surveys find that children take to Nintendos offerings better than the competitors. Thats because they are created to and there is no shame in it. Liking Nintendo is inviting your inner child, and there are gamers who refuse to let that inner child back out. This is the bias I speak of.

I'd still argue that the primary motivator behind comments like "Wii is gay" is insecurity; the need to justify one's (differing) console of choice so they feel like they made a good decision when purchasing it, the fear of being seen as "gay/kiddie/etc" themselves if they were open to it.


As I said the only insecurity in it is how they view themselves and whats holding themselves down to what they SHOULD be playing. This is the bias. The age bias is Nintendos greatest achillies heel. Some people dont want to play Nintendo because of their perception of themselves, but some just genuinely feel like they've outgrown it. As I said, Microsoft and Sony (a couple years ago) alluded to the situation that Nintendo might be more casual and child friendly than them but eventually most of those gamers will come to them when they "graduate".