I wasn't under the impression that the DLC for NSMB2 would be essential to the game...
Judging by the Nintendo Direct video, it certainly doesn't look essential...
Have a nice day...
I wasn't under the impression that the DLC for NSMB2 would be essential to the game...
Judging by the Nintendo Direct video, it certainly doesn't look essential...
Have a nice day...
spurgeonryan said:
Point 3: The Vita supporters say the same thing. They are coming! But when is this coming exactly?
@VicViper Obviously Mario Tennis and Paper Mario and 3D mario and 2D mario and Mario Kart are all different. But it is a lot of Mario. |
October! =D. Still I was surprised when I realized you made this thread O.o, thought someone else did until I saw up at the name.

I'm guessing Rhythm Hunter Harmo Knight is also going to be released this Holidays.
Game looks awesome, imo
| spurgeonryan said:
My reasons
1. DLC on a Mario game. Why do we buy Nintendo systems? Most of you will probably say it is because of Nintendo games. But what happens when we cannot trust Nintendo to make a high quality game anymore? That is what is happening as of late. We just discovered from the recent Nintendo Direct that Mario is going to have DLC by the end of the year. It was already a feeling of many that this new Mario Game was not on par with past games. Some said it was the co-op that was not as good, some said it was too fast or even too easy. Now we learn what was missing. Nintendo is not giving us quality anymore. Not only have we been flooded with Mario over this past year ( not even), but some of it has even been mediocre. What do I mean be mediocre? For a Nintendo game mediocre does not equal bad. In fact it is just the opposite. It is made very well with no technical flaws at all. But it has no fireworks. I had no problem with Mario Tennis Open! None. But did I want to come back and play it for more than 2-5 hours? The answer is a resounding no. The only real extra reason to keep playing this recent game is because of the coin total. Not even Nintendo can pump out quality material every few months. 2. The taste they have left in some gamers mouths. Are we expected to just forget about the last two years when Nintendo more or less forgot about us Wii owners, as well as DS owners? 2010 was the last year that I was proud to be a Nintendo fan. We had plenty of games and everything was going well for us. I have really enjoyed Skyward Sword. I said it so that no one will say I forgot about the game. But one really good game for a whole year does not cut it. Nintendo has done this sort of thing since the days of the N64. Is anyone else just totally done with waiting for games to come out on Nintendo systems? I keep hearing how the 3DS is so great! This is coming and that has come out. What? What is coming! Another God Damned Mario game and Professor layton. Did you guys seriously buy your 3DS to only play Mario games? It is pretty sad that I can count the big games this year from Nintendo on one hand. Maybe two if I try really hard and use every ounce of concentration that I have. For all you Europeans out there an ounce is an American Measurement. Look at Skyward Swords sales. Has there ever been a Zelda game that people had this many problems with? Some life long Nintendo/Zelda fans were really let down by this game. Even our very own RolStoppable gave us 50 problems with Skyward Sword. Nintendo is letting us down left and right people. In their effort to save face and get back to profit they are making all the wrong choices. But now that we are talking about the 3DS and not the Wii I will bring up something that people continue to argue with me about. The games! MGS, Resident Evil, Mario Tennis, Kid Icarus, and NSMB 2. Am I missing anything other than some random eshop games? That is all we have gotten this year. We are in month nine, which is also known as Septembre. Mortal Kombat, Little Big Planet, Gravity Rush, etc. That is all I know, but that is pretty sad that someone like me who does not pay any attention at all to other companies almost knows more games that have come out for the Vita than for the 3DS off the top of my head! Long live the 3DS and PSP in Japan, but in the West Nintendo is letting it die. Maybe it is their plan to downsize so that they can just run a small company out of Japan that only has to compete there. I do not own the Seattle Mariners and I am not the owner of a 100 year old company so I do not know. What I do know is that Americans are not going to stand for it too much longer. We have other forms of entertainment to get control of our limitend attention spans. On this gaming site many of you would probably aruge with me, but what about the soccer mom who wants to get their kid something nice for Christmas? She has no loyalty towards Mario like some of us gamers do. She will buy her 8 year old a ipad 3 this Christmas. Because he will not be asking for a system with a handful of the same games on it. "What would you like son? Mario, Mario or Mario?" " I want an ipad you fuching bitch! Get me some pizza pockets while your in the kitchen." ( Mom then cries in pantry as she decided to do what he says before her 8 year old slits her throat and plays in her blood instead of with his 3DS).
3. Localization and Region lock. We can call this section " The problem with the 3DS". Localize us some Fu**ing games Nintendo! This region lock bullshit is some bullshit too. They are not blind or dumb by any means. So Nintendo knows that people want more games. Yet the region lock the shit out of the Wii U and the 3DS anyways. Their need to block out piracy at any cost is hurting us more than it is hurting pirates. If they were able to hack the PS3 ( twice?), then they will hack the 3DS and the Wii U. I remember the days of the N64. When there was no games coming out for the system in the states ( where this crap all began) there was at least the possibility of getting imported games. Even our local Video rental store was importing games for people to rent. What does Nintendo really hope to accomplish with all of this unneccessary rigamarole? Maybe I am just missing the picture with the whole Region lock and localization thing? Is it because they are worried that a game will not sell enough to warrant the price of localization? That cannot be it because I remember the wii getting crapped on with tons of shitty imported games. What was that rpg that came out on the PS2 and Wii called again? Something....Wars? Sold like 10,000 copies. Does not seem like too hard of thing to figure out. "Reggie, we want you to make a poll on your American (SLIME) website and find out which games American's want localized". That is all they need to do. We would have told them right off the bat, "WE Want Xenoblade ( Are they Fuching brain dead?), Last Story, and Pandora's Tower, oh and if it is not too much trouble bring us some Captain Rainbow and Earth Seeker as well."
Do I need anymore points people? I will put this under construction if I have to and add some more. |
None of your three points are Nintendo specific burns. These points could easily be modified for their competitiors as well. Nothing to see hear move a long people!
If they were able to hack 3DS, they would have done so a long time ago. Not saying it can't still happen, but yeah.
In my opinion, by releasing DLC so early after the release of NSMB2 Nintendo is admitting that there are many players that are already bored of the game which is weird at least for me. I mean 2D Mario games are know by they almost infinity replay value so why they have to release DLC so fast?

The DLC and region locking things are minor points IMO. NSMB2 had problems, but DLC was not connected to them; the game had plenty of levels and content. As for region-locking, only a small fraction of gamers care about that.
As for the lack of 3DS games, that is hardly Nintendo's fault. I mean, it's not as if they haven't released their fair share of games this year. You have proper hard/middlecore games like Kid Icarus: Uprising, Mario Tennis, NSMB2, and Paper Mario, casual games like the new Demon Training, Style Savvy, and Art Academy, 2nd party games like Lego City, Professor Layton, and Spirit Camera, and eShop games like Fluidity, Rolling Western, and Sakura Samurai. Not all of these games are top tier, but there's hardly a lack of material. And even the disappointments (NSMB2) are well worth the cost of admission.
The 3DS's software shortage is 3rd parties fault. This year, the only major 3rd party releases outside of Japan have been the latest Mario & Sonic game, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Resident Evil: Revelations, and... ports. Later this year, we will have Epic Mickey, Adventure Time, a couple of multiplat games, and Harvest Moon.
1. I've heard from many who've played NSMB2 that it's the best NSMB game yet. Especially in terms of level design. And getting more of that sweet, sweet level design in the form of DLC is not a bad thing... in fact, it can curb Nintendo's desire to make another derivative sequel.
2. Vocal minorities being disappointed? Shocking. Also, when was the last time a new Zelda game hasn't dissapointed a noticeable portion of its fanbase? Ocarina of Time, I'd say.
Nintendo is doing a fine job with 3DS support in 2012, especially if you consider their digital offerings. The Wii, however, has been suffering since the beginning of 2011. Part of it could be attributed to a total lack of third-party support, and one could point to the excellent DS support even well after the 3DS came out, but I agree that there should've been at least one decent Nintendo-published Wii game for the first half of 2011. However, I don't believe for a second that this will kill Nintendo. It didn't kill Nintendo when GameCube hardly had any late-life support, and it will not stop Nintendo now.
3. Region lock will only affect those who import games. Localization is an overblown issue. We got Xenoblade and The Last Story, didn't we? Yes, Europe got them first. But I believe using Europe as a test market is a smart move that helps minimize risk. Games that perform well, like Xenoblade, will be released in North America. Others, like The Last Story, may require more help (in the case of TLS, it was XSEED). One might expect Nintendo to release games just to fill up a release schedule, but that's not necessarily a great business plan.
Also, Sakura Wars was a good game. *fist wag*
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Nintendo is releasing DLC for NSMB2 because it is their easy to monitor gateway game into the art of digital distribution. They know as a Mario game it will sell like block busters within 8 weeks it is already past 2 million worldwide. It is their first digital/retail release and it is easy to create content for.
It isn't like Nintendo will do this for all of their games, maybe some of the really simple and popular ones but DLC is a way of the world now, Nintendo is just catching up to the times and what their potential publishing partners want.
| spurgeonryan said: I think it is amazing that no matter how much Nintendo does wrong by us. Everyone still defends them to the end. No matter what. There is no denying the fact that for the last two years Nintendo has more or less not supported any one of their systems other than putting out an enormous amount of Mario games. FACT! People buy Nintendo for their games. Yet all we get is Mario 5 times a year. Get ready for some more Mario this Christmas with Paper Mario again! I know I was a little overboard with some of the OP, but come on. Nintendo is just giving us the run around. If they truly thought that shovel ware was the way of the future they would support it again like they did on the Wii. Meanwhile great indy games would get trampled yet again under all of the shovelware. When Miyamoto finally retires there will be a lot of problems in the Magic Kingdom! |
i always found kinda absurd this fanboy argument of why they hate nintendo: "all you get in nintendo consoles are mario games"
it's true that there are lots of games that use the name mario, but they are not the same game: new super mario it's not the same as paper mario, paper mario it's not the same as mario galaxy, mario galaxy it's not the same as mario kart, mario kart it's not the same as mario 3d land and so on...
nintendo uses the name "mario" as some kind of trademark for saying "this are our quality games" and people keeps buying them because they know that if it has the name "mario" in it, then it's a good game