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errorpwns on 17 September 2012
o_O.Q said:
errorpwns said:

I'm fairly certain you're just arguing for the sake of arguing now.  Wii-U is getting one of the most realistic racing games to date.  Project C.A.R.S.  If the WIi-U controller wasn't suitable for a racing game/sim then why would they even bother making a Wii-U version?  Secondly, in games like NFS and Burnout having analog vs digital is no difference.  In arcade style games it really doesn't matter.  You're not going to be slowing down all that often, and when you are you're going to be making sudden stops, etc.   You proved yourself wrong already.  True racing sim fans will buy wheels.  Arcade racing fans won't tell a differance. 


"Wii-U is getting one of the most realistic racing games to date.  Project C.A.R.S."

really? as a gt 5 player myself thats pretty intriguing

where are the gameplay videos, pictures, impressions etc?

ot at least some support is hinted


http://www.dsogaming.com/news/project-cars-new-gorgeous-community-screenshots-2/

PC Screen shots (Real gameplay shots, real time.)


Youtube has plenty of videos, and the company was talking about how they're discussing what to do with the Wii-Us functionality.  It was one of the first games to be announced for the Wii-U also.  So I'm surprised you haven't heard. 

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/04/slightly_mad_reveals_project_cars_wii_u_features

 

Looks great.



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M.U.G.E.N on 17 September 2012
RolStoppable said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

haha way to jump to conclusions. If you like read up the neogaf thread I posted earlier. You will find many of the biggest ninty fans in there..as well as well known unbiased posters. See what they think for yourself

oh yea definitely 50% ( oh wait ...neither you nor I ..or even anyone else..will know a quantified value for this lol. What exactly did you expect from this Q exactly?)

Listen...just like achievement system (A unified one) is not liked by some...or doesn't bother some...doesn't mean there are those would like it. In the case of triggers...having them would have not bothered any one. But not having them definitely will. And without a good explanation or a reason (me and FOX were discussing the possibilities above)...it's a shame it doesn't have it. that's all

I don't know any Neogaf people, so this would be a useless exercise. Besides, I consistently acknowledged a tiny minority who will think this is an issue; and like always, such minorities seem to be much bigger on the internet than they are in the real world.

I expected you to make a definite statement. Since you refused, it shows that you know you are on thin ice.

For the last paragraph I can only repeat what I said moments ago: It's only a minority that will be bothered by this. Just like the lack of a unified achievement system will ultimately only bother a minority and that's actually a much bigger deal, because it extends to beyond just racing games. You made a mountain out of a molehill. That sums it up pretty well.

You don't really need to know them...go and read and see if their points and concerns are valid or not

Agreeing to a statement with numbers you pulled out of your ass will not prove anything really. The one who has yet come up with one decent argument here is you.

Not really..I didn't even argue much about it...me and the other person were just having a completely civil calm conversation about it before everyone started getting all defensive for no perticular reason. 

and you honestly think the lack of a unified system for achievement is gonna bother a 'minority'? Come on now...this thread alone should prove you that. The existence of communities should prove you that. Every single thread on the matter is filled with people who express their displeasure about it. Not really hard ..even for you..to notice such a thing. 

the issue with achievements is gonna bug way more people than triggers. That's not something I'm even gonna argue about

but then again why am I even trying talk about the importance of triggers to you :D Chances are you haven't even played any of those games..at least not in a long ass time



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o_O.Q on 17 September 2012

looks good i wonder if the wii u version will be close to the pc version in terms of visuals



errorpwns on 17 September 2012
o_O.Q said:
looks good i wonder if the wii u version will be close to the pc version in terms of visuals


It'll probably be so-so.  Obviously it won't be that good, even though it should be.  It hopefully will be close though.



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F0X on 17 September 2012
o_O.Q said:
looks good i wonder if the wii u version will be close to the pc version in terms of visuals

Unlikely, but I have a feeling that the developer chose the Wii U for reasons beyond raw graphical power. We'll see.



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cyberninja45 on 18 September 2012
theRepublic said:
The only good achievements/trophies are the ones that come with in-game unlockables. Otherwise they are a pointless waste of time. I don't know why people bother.

This ^


My exact sentiments on achievements.



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cyberninja45 on 18 September 2012
M.U.G.E.N said:
RolStoppable said:
M.U.G.E.N said:

ugh yes he is. Control options of a handheld is far less limited compared to a home console. No one would expect such a thing from a vita or a 3ds. But any racing game fan would expect it from a home console.

sigh really...the lot of you would defend ninty to the teeth no matter what it seems. If the port of a home console on a handheld is gimped I will call it out as such..especially if it's not due to the hardware's limitations. NFL vita...is a horror story in that aspect. and has been called out as such. 

Fact of the matter is...it's a negative for a home console. There is no good reasoning behind it. And none of you who defends it blindly has given one either. If you actually have a decent argument as to why it's a good thing for the wiiu I'm all ears. 

I've already pointed out in a previous post of mine that racing fans who really care buy a steering wheel and pedals. The lack of analog triggers being a negative is not a fact. It's insignificant in the grand scheme of things and anyone who argues otherwise is simply blowing things out of proportion. I can see how the lack of analog triggers could affect a tiny minority, but most people probably won't even realize that such a feature is missing.


-_- yes...that's why the response from racing fans have been so positive about this news. Not all Racing fans play racing games with wheels lol. It's like saying all big fighting fans buy a pad to play fighters or something. I play a ton of fighting games...pretty decent too in some of them. Don't have a fighting pad at all. Most of the people I know that buy wheels are fans of Sims. Not franchises like nfs/burnout

again..not a single reason why this is a good thing...or acceptable as a consumer. If you can't see anything negative about this then it is just damage control now. 

For games like nfs and burnout whether it is an analog trigger or digital it does not really matter as these are arcade style racers so the accelerate button does not react like a real life pedal, I have only ever played one game that heavily requires analog triggers and that was Grid as the car would spin out as in real life when the button is pressed (the game measures a digital press as the gas being pressed alll the way, since there is no degree of pressure).

Not saying that leaving out analog triggers are bad or good.



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wfz on 18 September 2012
cyberninja45 said:
theRepublic said:
The only good achievements/trophies are the ones that come with in-game unlockables. Otherwise they are a pointless waste of time. I don't know why people bother.

This ^


My exact sentiments on achievements.


You know, I really agree with this. I've played a lot of games with trophies and achievements, but the only time I've ever had FUN getting those completed was while playing Battlefield 3. They have an assignment system that, when you complete each assignment (by getting a certain amount of kills with certain weapons or meeting some other criteria), unlock new weapons, dog tags, vehicle weapons, etc. 

It's SUPER fun... I hope companies do this more and more, and I hope Nintendo does as well.



S.T.A.G.E. on 18 September 2012

Achievements are great gamer incentives to complete the games they buy. In this era of gaming thats not a very good aspect to leave out of your plan at any time.