You serious? Are you some mad collecting person?

Well developers are free to include in-game incentives. Otherwise, achievements are meaningless and often disguise a complete lack of replay value.

I love achievements and Trophies, they add replay value offering the user different ways to play the game and discovering parts of the game that they may have previously never completed.
They can give you a satisfying reward for doing certain challenges or completing the game. The Trophy/Achievement system is also an excellent way to measure how much gaming you and your friends have done.

Big mistake by nintendo, they are suppose to be building an online network to compete with PSN and XBL yet they fail to add in what should be an essential feature for a modern gaming console.

I don't get people's reaction to this news. Just because it's not mandatory, doesn't mean it's NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN IN ANY GAMES EVA!!!!

We have evidence of Nintendo introducing a system of Accomplishments, which are the counterpart to MS' Achievements and Sony's Trophies. Most games, especially multiplat titles, will use them. 3rd party titles will also likely use them, and most 1st party titles will as well. It's probably just titles which don't benefit from them which wouldn't use them, and that's the right move.

Also, make them worth something as well. I don't know; like if you get all achievements (like the Platinum Trophy), then you get a free DLC or bonus levels or something actually in-game. That way, it makes people collect them who are completionists, and so long as there's other ways of unlocking these levels, it keeps everyone happy. Because I enjoy collecting them, but I don't feel compelled to do so.

The fewer basic 'story' trophies the better for me, anyway. And please, let there be an option to turn them off? At least the notifications? I can't imagine anything more annoying than playing a horror title, or going through an emotional scene, when the "Achievements" logo pops up. It's so damn annoying!

After everything I've said, let's just see. This seems like an over-reaction from both sides of the argument.

Just an aside, but no-one ever actually says stuff like that in England (not Britian, in this case); it's a common misconception. Similarly how we Brits (it is Britain in this case) see all Americans as cowboys or...well, you've played GTA. It just doesn't happen. The whole phrase actually came from tourists, and will likely only ever be used by tourists.

Though we do all drink tea. And being down in Devon now I find myself constantly wanting a Cream Tea. So there's that. But we don't all dress like Layton or do puzzles all the time. It's a confusing world for sure.

Anyway, on-topic...hmm...welll...I wonder if it would be seperate accounts or seperate save files which got achievements in this instance. I find it annoying having to log out, log back in, and boot up the game just to get my Trophy information up. If it's not tied to the system, I don't see why it can't just be through save files which are linked to your Mii's, but aren't actually on seperate accounts. I also doubt these will be there at launch. We shall see, anyway.

In game unlockables aren't an incentive to complete all a game has to offer. Achievements are in many respects. They add points to your community status for your ability to complete or at least majorly finish a title that you've purchased. In game unlockables are old-school, they should already be there. Nintendo games will probably already have this by default, but the thing Nintendo needs to understand is that competitive gaming and social gaming period has evolved without them online and otherwise. They need to catch up or become secondary to the very dedicated gamers who could become potential buyers. Every little thing helps and adds up to the possibility of gaining more of a serious fanbase for the console. The Wii did not have this, it was just smothered by casuals who didn't care. If being a completionist isn't applicable in todays systems, you must truly only be after the casuals. I am not putting this all on Nintendo, but one must remember that its on third parties to create the trophy availability, but it's also on Nintendo to make it a dedicated part of the system. If they aren't there it might also turn people off of gaming competitively on multiplats. Now, I am not speaking for all, but it has affected people psychologically if you think about it as times have progressed .

This.

that would'nt be a big deal 2 me.

From my understanding "Keep Calm and Carry On" was a propaganda poster prepared by the Germans for if or when the Germans managed to invade and occupy the UK, never actually distributed, unless possibly in Jersey and Guernsey

This again? I'm gonna say this again...
I'm indifference about this, but I can see why people would be wary about this, 'cause it's not mandatory, then that means NOT ALL games have the achievement system wich means not worthy at all. But that's one-side mind to me and quite possibly child-minded (yes, I was one) at best for cancelling a pre-order that someone already done just for that one thing...