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Forums - Sales - Is PS All Stars going to be a huge flop in America? (dismal pre-orders) UPDATE: Yep, it's a huge flop.

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Chark on 25 August 2012
ninetailschris said:
If some of you guys typed in the links some of your questions would have been answered -_-.

On the Point about sony and retail. Sony gets the same amount taken from there games as everyone as from gamestop/bestbuy/ and others. Just because your sony doesn't mean OH yea you are treated better.

BluRay disc which most Ps3 games use for extra storage and I believe Uncharted uses from everything I seen and heard. That cost about 3 dollars compared to normal CD which cost about .03. Again LOOK UP A LINK WHEN IT"S PUT UP. Sony still has the to pay the same as everyone else as they cost the same to everyone.

Licensing doesn't deal with 3rd party only. It deals with famous voice actors/ or really well paided which I believe didn't have any but I would have to look that up . But if not it's cost nothing!

Distributors cost money.

Outsources percent.


Art/Design cost I would suggest you look up as to how it works because I tried explaining before but people had to look up and then they understood. I believe EPIC or EA talked about it. The money doesn't go directly to them. From what I remember it goes directly to fund that area and the retail and whats leftover goes directly to the company. Again look it up for more exact break down. To add I remember reading that the people still get paid after too for certain things but management mostly.

We are looking at 12 retail(at best) + leftovers which can be up 6-7(best).

@AvaBane guy
What I'm saying is at retail best 12 dollars I thought you were saying they get 30 dollars from retail itself which people often confuse.

Btw marketing lowest is about 4 dollars. Like the author said actvision is one that is usually a higher more costly. Probably 6-8.


Lol wut?



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

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Nsanity on 25 August 2012
D-Joe said:
I'm thinking can PS All Starts beat halo 4 in japan(both release in same week)
yesterday MS Japan say halo 4's pre-order more than Halo 3 about 1.5 times

PS3 install base is much larger in Japan, so of course its going to sell more.



dj2one on 26 August 2012

Not flop prob sell between 1 and 2 million, I am not excited about it at all though the vids have made it look lackluster at best. From what I saw the player perspective is way to far away from the characters they look so small in all the gameplay vids I have seen.



bananaking21 on 26 August 2012
SunofKratos said:
It will not be a flop. And heres is why

1. it will get huge marketing ( this will be an IP Sony will really pushinh hard to get popular)
2. it will definitaly get bundled
3. its cathcing for a younger audience too ( not only the god old sony fans) so this will sell good during christmas time ( like an Little Big Planet 2 for an example)
4. it will have legs as most of the PS3 exclusives

So in the end it will make about 1,5-2,5 Millions which whould be enough to get a fanbase. But it will grow next gen. But if you are expecting Super Smas Bros numbers than it will be a flopp.


your avatar is AWESOME!



Boutros on 26 August 2012
lilbroex said:
Boutros said:
turtuls said:
What kind of flop? We talking a Starhawk type flop or a Twisted Metal type flop?

No More Heroes kind of flop.


No more heroes was a hit. It was grasshopper manufactures biggest selling game ever followed by NMH2.

Only their 360/PS3 titles flopped.

Yeah right lol

And Madworld was a huge hit. 0.70 million ZOMG



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arcane_chaos on 26 August 2012

whether it's a flop or not, thar shall be some crow eating in this thread



crissindahouse on 26 August 2012

woah one is for sure, ps all stars threads always explode in post counts!



Chark on 26 August 2012
arcane_chaos said:
whether it's a flop or not, thar shall be some crow eating in this thread

I'll prep the kitchen! lol

I hope the game does well. It's about time PlayStation jumped on the concept.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

sundin13 on 26 August 2012
Boutros said:
lilbroex said:
Boutros said:
turtuls said:
What kind of flop? We talking a Starhawk type flop or a Twisted Metal type flop?

No More Heroes kind of flop.


No more heroes was a hit. It was grasshopper manufactures biggest selling game ever followed by NMH2.

Only their 360/PS3 titles flopped.

Yeah right lol

And Madworld was a huge hit. 0.70 million ZOMG


...if Grasshopper games didn't make money (aka weren't a success) than grasshopper wouldnt be making games anymore. NMH was the best selling grasshopper game of all time. Therefore, NMH was a success


Games dont need to sell millions to make a profit and be successful. Success is relative...

PS: yeah, .7M for a niche title such as Madworld is a pretty big success imo



Baron on 26 August 2012
Boutros said:
lilbroex said:
Boutros said:
turtuls said:
What kind of flop? We talking a Starhawk type flop or a Twisted Metal type flop?

No More Heroes kind of flop.


No more heroes was a hit. It was grasshopper manufactures biggest selling game ever followed by NMH2.

Only their 360/PS3 titles flopped.

Yeah right lol

And Madworld was a huge hit. 0.70 million ZOMG

Games don't need to pass the 1 million mark to be considered a succes. If a game costs let's say 500.000 to make than 500.000 copies sold will make the game a succes. If a game costs 50 million then it's a totally different story.