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Are you guys totally ignoring the fact that a game like Madworld has been 5$ forever now and is the cheapest Wii game around because it was massively overshipped and got most of its sales from discounted units? They said it themselves that the game's sales disappointed.

I guess we could call NMH a neutral success but so should be considered Twisted Metal no?

And give Lollipop Chainsaw a month or two and it will pass No More Heroes.



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Boutros said:
lilbroex said:
Boutros said:
turtuls said:
What kind of flop? We talking a Starhawk type flop or a Twisted Metal type flop?

No More Heroes kind of flop.


No more heroes was a hit. It was grasshopper manufactures biggest selling game ever followed by NMH2.

Only their 360/PS3 titles flopped.

Yeah right lol

And Madworld was a huge hit. 0.70 million ZOMG

Boutrous, you've been around long enough to know better.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9773629&postcount=165

No more Heroes sold so high over expecations on the Wii that Marvelous threw a party in honor of the game selling so above expectations.

No More heroes shot WAY above initial publisher expectations.

Suda games have always been super cheap cult games.



Kasz216 said:
Boutros said:
lilbroex said:
Boutros said:
turtuls said:
What kind of flop? We talking a Starhawk type flop or a Twisted Metal type flop?

No More Heroes kind of flop.


No more heroes was a hit. It was grasshopper manufactures biggest selling game ever followed by NMH2.

Only their 360/PS3 titles flopped.

Yeah right lol

And Madworld was a huge hit. 0.70 million ZOMG

Boutrous, you've been around long enough to know better.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9773629&postcount=165

No more Heroes sold so high over expecations on the Wii that Marvelous threw a party in honor of the game selling so above expectations.

No More heroes shot WAY above initial publisher expectations.

Suda games have always been super cheap cult games.

As I have said I guess NMH was a neutral success but you seem to forget the rant Suda had about third-party games on the Wii in Japan and how he was disappointed with the sales over there. I guess it ended having great legs worldwide but again legs aren't the most profitable outcome. Still we all know it was probably a satisfying success because he did make a sequel for it. Anyway we all knew at the time that the Wii wasn't the right platform for NMH and it's undeniable it would have sold more on HD consoles especially on the PS3 in Japan.

That's kind of off-topic though lol



VgChartz pre-order data isn't very accurate......but yeah it does give us an idea of how it is doing and it's not very good.

It needs some exciting character reveals like Cloud or Sephiroth. Who the hell wants Parappa the Rapper anyway?



Yes it will flop and I'll tell you why. The advertising is abysmal, first of all.

Have you seen the trailers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq-Yqt52w48

That's just a general "hype" trailer. The character trailers are the worst.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvAtu33qTh4

To compare...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4yBT3XLUxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PgxEQuFp2c

It has almost no personality in comparision, it's pretty bad. The music in the background of the PSAS trailers is really dumb, and no hype is generated. No themes for the characters.

If they made good cinematic trailers like Smash Bros, or good theming videos like UMvC, more people would be excited. But no.

 

It doesn't look like a bad game, while I'm not a huge fan of super only can kill (imbalanced gameplay to be expected), it might be a fun game all around. I haven't tried it yet; I will soon.



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I said it will sell less then a million worldwide in its first 6 months.



@Boutros And it was released for HD platforms, and did worse so what's your point.



Boutros said:

Are you guys totally ignoring the fact that a game like Madworld has been 5$ forever now and is the cheapest Wii game around because it was massively overshipped and got most of its sales from discounted units? They said it themselves that the game's sales disappointed.

I guess we could call NMH a neutral success but so should be considered Twisted Metal no?

And give Lollipop Chainsaw a month or two and it will pass No More Heroes.


Madworld is kind of an "odd duck" though ...

It was a short and repetitive game that would have been better digitally distributed and sold at a relatively low price.



phenom08 said:
@Boutros And it was released for HD platforms, and did worse so what's your point.

Seriously?



HappySqurriel said:
Boutros said:

Are you guys totally ignoring the fact that a game like Madworld has been 5$ forever now and is the cheapest Wii game around because it was massively overshipped and got most of its sales from discounted units? They said it themselves that the game's sales disappointed.

I guess we could call NMH a neutral success but so should be considered Twisted Metal no?

And give Lollipop Chainsaw a month or two and it will pass No More Heroes.


Madworld is kind of an "odd duck" though ...

It was a short and repetitive game that would have been better digitally distributed and sold at a relatively low price.

That kind of applies to every Platinum Games though except Bayonetta. Vanquish was very short and very repetitive. It's a better game than Madworld because the gameplay was awesome but ultimately it wasn't really worth 60$ for the amount of content.

Anarchy Reigns is also looking like a short game but since it's up for pre-orders for 30$ I guess they realized it too lol