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Potable_Toe on 20 July 2012
pezus said:
Potable_Toe said:
pezus said:

Am I the only one who thinks the increase in Live membership is...underwhelming?

Only a 15% increase in userbase while the hardware increased 23.5% means fewer new Xbox gamers (relatively) are jumping in than before, or more cancelled subscriptions. Correct me if I am wrong.

What that shows is that 63.8% of new console purchases resulted in a new Xbox Live membership (not necessarily 'Gold' though) which is actually consistent with the LTD numbers for the Live to Hardware ratio.

Actually...no. What was the Live userbase before? 30m or so? So give it a 15% increase: That makes it 34.5m now or a 4.5m jump. 360 shipped, however, 13m consoles...so the ratio was 4.5/13 = 34.6%

I may have made a mistake in my sum's, I took an overly simplistic and ultimately wrong viewpoint on the numbers, however your figures too are incorrect.

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/06/xbox-by-the-numbers-20m-xbox-live-users-10m-nongaming-39m-xbo/

39m X360s/20m Live users - 51.2%

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/05/xbox-360-hits-50-million-worldwide-xbox-live-users-top-30-milli/

50m X360s/30m Live users - 60%

http://www.microsoft.com/investor/EarningsAndFinancials/Earnings/SegmentResults/EntertainmentAndDevicesDivision/FY11/Q4/performance.aspx

55m X360s/35m Live users - 63.6%

http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-brief/60687-xbox-live-users-topple-40-million

66m X360s/40m Live users - 66.6%

Now it is 68.3m X360s/40.25m (according to my maths) resulting in 58.9%

 

So to answer your question for a second time, yes as a ratio Xbox live users have dropped (by 7.7%) compared to hardware sales assuming my 'workings out' are correct this time.



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Lostplanet22 on 20 July 2012

Don't worry to much, when Halo release they number of members on live will jump skyhigh!



 

crissindahouse on 20 July 2012
Carl2291 said:
Stop bringing Sony into it. We know all about Sony and the losses. Thats no news. Stop derailing your own thread.

The first.

Let me repeat that.

First. First. First. FIRST.

The first ever loss for Microsoft. Its big news. Its unexpected and really quite shocking.

Take it on the chin and stop being so defensive.

you know that the stock market was very pleased with the numbers? or let's say it different, they expected worse. how could this be unexpected if investors expected worse?



Lostplanet22 on 20 July 2012
crissindahouse said:
Carl2291 said:
Stop bringing Sony into it. We know all about Sony and the losses. Thats no news. Stop derailing your own thread.

The first.

Let me repeat that.

First. First. First. FIRST.

The first ever loss for Microsoft. Its big news. Its unexpected and really quite shocking.

Take it on the chin and stop being so defensive.

you know that the stock market was very pleased with the numbers? how could this be unexpected if investors were happy about the numbers?

Carl just want to troll that much and enjoy the news so much doesn't matter how hard you try to make sense.   Plenty have already told that many expected this news but still is he trying so hard to make this look like unexpected bad news that it isn't funny..  Just let him.  If that is what he enjoythen you can better let him be. 



 

Carl on 20 July 2012

Ive not seen people this defensive over something since the 3DS pricecut.

Seriously.

Fuck this thread. I asked a question and get jumped on for "trolling". Thanks Kynes for actually being civil. The rest of you know what to do.



                            

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M.U.G.E.N on 20 July 2012
Carl2291 said:
Ive not seen people this defensive over something since the 3DS pricecut.

Seriously.

Fuck this thread. I asked a question and get jumped on for "trolling". Thanks Kynes for actually being civil. The rest of you know what to do.


Ignore em. It was a simple question with a simple answer. And Kynes did a good job in replying. Ignore the others. The investment turned out to be a horrible one for them, no way to spin it otherwise.



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Carl on 20 July 2012
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
Ive not seen people this defensive over something since the 3DS pricecut.

Seriously.

Fuck this thread. I asked a question and get jumped on for "trolling". Thanks Kynes for actually being civil. The rest of you know what to do.


Kynes just highlighted better that you dont understand this t all actually. Nice get out for you though.  

pane I guess you haven't looked at any vita criticism recently... And dot worry you'll see some massive defensive plays soon enough.  Sony financials are due. 



Cant you get it into your head that it was a question? Instead of giving me a bunch of spin and jumping around the room on some little mission, you could have just give a nice simple answer like Kynes. Instead, you went on the usual anti-Sony defense trip.

We all know exactly what to expect from the Sony financials. And yes, Ive seen all the Vita criticism. You cant seem to get enough of it... Or Sony, as evidenced by this thread. You know what they say - Put others down to make you feel better about your own shortcomings.



                            

Carl on 20 July 2012

I want you to stay on topic and not bring Sony into yet another Microsoft thread.



                            

Argh_College on 20 July 2012

Vita isnt a mess... it just started bad just like 3DS.



Farsala on 20 July 2012

Why is their so much Sony financial talk in this MS financial thread? Heck lets talk about Nintendo financials too.