The 360 is reliant on 2 markets. America and Ameri-mini. That said, both Wii and PS3 without said markets would be equally as shocking.

Serious question - Without USA/UK sales, where would sales for all 3 be?

Wii:49m

PS3: 39m

X360: 25m

More or less. Guesstimated USA numbers from NA ones.

Edit: I was curious so here are more precise numbers.

Wii: 48,069,000

PS3: 38,694,000

X360: 24,655,000

Iwas only a bit off with Wii

So I guess that does show that Turkish was right in some respect.

There you have it guys.

All 3 would be terrible.

I'm going with Wii only as the others would probably need many more years and price cuts to reach the 100m number

lol at the PS360 only voters haha how in the hell do you guys think Wii won't reach it but one of the other two will?

They don't/won't understand.

All the talk about the US market for the 360 is referring to its reliance on it, since it is its largest market if the 360 lost sales momentum there it would mean it would lose its overall sales momentum. I'm not saying the 360 will stop selling in the US all of the sudden, but it is a possibility that they are reaching a saturation point for the demand on the system. At least enough so that it could lose market share this year. Perhaps the Wii is a good indicator of a potential saturation point for a games console? The wii dropped ~30% in sales the last two years when at the same ~39 million mark the 360 is at. IF the same was to occur to 360 they would only sell ~5.5 in the US this year and ~3.5 million the year after. Essentially maxing out at around 50 million over time similarly to how the Wii is.

I'm not saying its happening, but saturation does occur in markets. The 360 will lose their lion's share of sales, or about 50% of their yearly sales will drop 30% a year. Since PS3 has only sold 25 million in the US they could potentially be farther from a saturation point, if the Wii is the indicator. Of course the total console sales could be the indicator, the current 113 million consoles on the market could mean saturation for the demand on all consoles, but as PS3 has reached the hands of the fewest number of consumers it is the console most likely to continue to be picked up. Anyway, the PS3 doesn't hold 50% of its market in the US, about 40% or less, so it has less to lose from saturation in the US than the 360 does. Having multiple markets creates strength for sales while holding to one or two creates fragility. With this years interesting first half sales, we could be seeing a shift in the markets behavior.

Technically, if Nintendo wanted, they could easily copy MS' plan of charging a cheap intial retail price with a monthly subscription fee as an option. I don't know if they'll do that though, but they'll have an easier time of selling it since Wii U comes bundled with a game right out of the box.

I'd say Wii only. Surely, they don't have time nor resources to keep making system sellers for both current- and next generation consoles? And even if they did, that wouldn't be too smart if they want people to buy the new consoles.

On a side-note: The fact that some seem to think that Wii won't reach 100 million while the PS3 will is beyond my understanding.

For once, I actually believe what you say Turkish.