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Which console(s) will reach 100 million?

All three consoles. 45 8.93%
 
Wii and PS3 148 29.37%
 
Wii and X360 18 3.57%
 
PS3 and X360 5 0.99%
 
Wii only 197 39.09%
 
PS3 only 44 8.73%
 
X360 only 10 1.98%
 
See results 37 7.34%
 
Total:504
Mr Puggsly on 17 July 2012
logic56 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.

wii is dead and the only thing keeping the 360's head above the water is the holiday kinect boost which isn't Sony's market

Actually I think the PS3 will last longer in developing countries than the ps2, once they start upgrading, becasue of how much more it adds, the established online network, free games and services, and dirt cheap yet high quality games,  the PS3 can go on indefinitely where the ps2 was only really viable becasue the ps3 was too expensive.

Wii isn't dead. It has room for price cuts and I think it'll still do pretty well for the next few years simply relying on its 1st party lineup.

Kinect isn't keeping the 360's, "head above water." Its allowing the 360 to maintain strong sales without relying on MASSIVE price cuts to stimulate sales. Which is why the 360 is actually profitable, while PS3...is profitable BOOM!! lol

I agree with your statment about PS3's lasting longer than PS2 because of the online related content. Digital downloads and streaming entertainment will keep the 360 and PS3 relevant for years to come, worldwide. Although, I hear internet access in developing nations is not so great or fast. They may be an obstacle.

your point was that competition well slow ps3 momentum

the wii has been selling like shit for the past 2 years now and has had NO effect on PS3 sales so as far at it being a competitor = DEAD

and yeah 360 does have solid sales that are lower than the ps3 sales which is about to get ANOTHER price cut and a redesign soooo....

and your with with those servies really getting better.....right when the ps4 is announced and ps3 becomes dirt cheap to phases out the ps2. Sony really couldn't have set that up any better....

You can't measure what effect Wii has had on PS3. Or the effect it will have in the coming years.

PS3 has sales... Xbox has profit. Geez, which position is better? Eitherway, don't count the 360 out until the holidays. Remember what happen in 2011?
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/02/03/xbox-360-leads-global-2011-sales.aspx

PS3 is profitable? Are you sure PS3 made back all the billions and billions it lost?



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Kenology on 17 July 2012
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

The fallacy that the PS3 will trend the same way the PS2 did after a PS4 launch is just that, a fallacy.  

The PS3 is NOT the PS2  - it never has been and it never will be. 

Y'all have been waiting since 2006 for the PS3 to finally "take off".  It hasn't happened.  The PS3 has already had a slim remodel.  Sony can release another slime model and have yet another price drop all it wants, it won't change the fact that it won't reach 100 million... ever.  What software is even going to push it?  (Don't say Sony titles.)

But if you want to believe it'll happen, go right ahead!



bouzane on 17 July 2012
Kenology said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

The fallacy that the PS3 will trend the same way the PS2 did after a PS4 launch is just that, a fallacy.  

The PS3 is NOT the PS2  - it never has been and it never will be. 

Y'all have been waiting since 2006 for the PS3 to finally "take off".  It hasn't happened.  The PS3 has already had a slim remodel.  Sony can release another slime model and have yet another price drop all it wants, it won't change the fact that it won't reach 100 million... ever.  What software is even going to push it?  (Don't say Sony titles.)

But if you want to believe it'll happen, go right ahead!


It is worth noting that the PS2 sold 21.6 million units of hardware between the 2009 and 2011 fiscal years. The system's release schedule was pretty barren during this period of time but that absolutley doesn't matter that late in a console's lifespan. Once a system is past gen tech and is retailing for $100 or less it doesn't need new software due to casual gamers, people buying replacement units and of course the developing markets. Also, I see no reason why the PS3 can't break 73 million sales by the end of the year. Considering the fact that it's successor launches, at the earliest, late 2013. I see no reason as to why it could not sell another 10 million units in 2013, especially after the introduction of a new model and a significant price cut. Sony could support the PS3 for several years afterward like they have traditionally done with all of their hardware. Sony will likely apply their past business model and support three systems simultaneously. This would be a wise decision on Sony's part as it would allow them to simultaneously target different segments of the market while recouping some of the losses they suffered from the PS3's disastrous launch. Sorry but I can not understand the mentality that believes it to be impossible for the PS3 to break 100 million unit sales.



spaceguy on 18 July 2012
Farsala said:
spaceguy said:
Farsala said:
spaceguy said:
Who voted ps3 only. Saying wii is not going to get it is a joke. These people show there Biasism.
I'm a 360 fan, I voted Wii only. Highly unlikely they will hit 100 million. They might but it's going to be a hard run. I think they will hit just below or just over by the end of there run.


People vote X360 only too, i dont understand the logic but whatever lol.

 

OT: I think if all 3 consoles are supported after their new consoles are released, (multiplats coming for all) then all 3 will make it to 100m. I think main thing about sales after a next gen console is out is just the type of support it gets.

Did i say that logic was ok??? No, so the point you would bring that up proves what? that they are stupid too, When I posted there where no 360 votes yet.

Nice negativity. I was saying I dont understand the logic in people voting for either choice, since the wii will most definitely get 100m. Don't get so angry at random comments.


Yea my bad, I was having a bad day yesturday. Wasn't really trying to be a dick but when I read it, it does come off a little rough.



Conegamer on 18 July 2012

All of these people talking about the PS3's success:

Remember, last year the Wii was still selling above 100k regularly. Now look where it is. Look at the 360. This generation is coming to an end. When the interest stops, as it has for the Wii and is happening to the 360, sales just drop and drop and drop. The same thing will happen to the PS3 late this year, or early next, and when it does, absolutely nothing can save it.

Last year, it wouldn't have been unreasonable to say the Wii would reach 115-120mil LT. Now some people are doubting it'll hit 100mil. It wouldn't have been unreasonable to say the PS3 would never overtake the 360 this time last year, but now it seems to be a given.

When the PS3 drops below 100k, which it may well do this year, nothing will save it. And with the WiiU out this year, that WILL take some sales away, I see both consoles struggling to reach 90mil and 85mil accordingly.



 

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binary solo on 18 July 2012

I'm gonna go with Wii only. With WW release of PS4/720 less than 2 years away (I'm sure) I don't see either of them legging it out to 100 million post next gen launch. Of course at this point I'm not even totally confident of Wii getting there. It's selling so badly right now and I wonder if it can do its magic again this Christmas.



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Serious_frusting on 18 July 2012

PS3 has a far better chance than the x360 to be honest.



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slowmo on 18 July 2012
bouzane said:
Kenology said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

The fallacy that the PS3 will trend the same way the PS2 did after a PS4 launch is just that, a fallacy.  

The PS3 is NOT the PS2  - it never has been and it never will be. 

Y'all have been waiting since 2006 for the PS3 to finally "take off".  It hasn't happened.  The PS3 has already had a slim remodel.  Sony can release another slime model and have yet another price drop all it wants, it won't change the fact that it won't reach 100 million... ever.  What software is even going to push it?  (Don't say Sony titles.)

But if you want to believe it'll happen, go right ahead!


It is worth noting that the PS2 sold 21.6 million units of hardware between the 2009 and 2011 fiscal years. The system's release schedule was pretty barren during this period of time but that absolutley doesn't matter that late in a console's lifespan. Once a system is past gen tech and is retailing for $100 or less it doesn't need new software due to casual gamers, people buying replacement units and of course the developing markets. Also, I see no reason why the PS3 can't break 73 million sales by the end of the year. Considering the fact that it's successor launches, at the earliest, late 2013. I see no reason as to why it could not sell another 10 million units in 2013, especially after the introduction of a new model and a significant price cut. Sony could support the PS3 for several years afterward like they have traditionally done with all of their hardware. Sony will likely apply their past business model and support three systems simultaneously. This would be a wise decision on Sony's part as it would allow them to simultaneously target different segments of the market while recouping some of the losses they suffered from the PS3's disastrous launch. Sorry but I can not understand the mentality that believes it to be impossible for the PS3 to break 100 million unit sales.

There is plenty of reasons posted by the people who do not believe it possible andare backed up with plenty of valid reasons.  If you cannot understand the mentality I suggest you open your mind more to what people are saying.  I personally feel that it's impossible for the PS3 to reach 100 million but by the same token I can understand why people who are pro Sony may let their bias cloud their judgement into seeing a more rosy situation than is actually the case.  Bear in mind I also realise my favouritism toward the 360 may mean I don't see the PS3 situation in it's best light either which I have tried to take into account in my opinion.

People keep making this assumption that the PS3 will decrease in price like the PS2 and maintain sales like the PS2 did.  I'd love to know how this is the case when the main costs involved in manufacturing a PS3 (GPU, CPU, HDD) are all not going to be reduced in price dramatically further at the moment.  The removal of the HDD for flash memory onboard will likely save about $25-50 but that's the last big cost cutting they'll have unless they manage to convince IBM and Nvidia to die shrink the CPU and GPU further.

The one thing we can take from this generation is all other previous generations rules no longer apply.



Nem on 18 July 2012
Millenium said:
Wii: Yes
PS3: No
X360: No


Thats my opinion aswell.



Chark on 18 July 2012
slowmo said:

There is plenty of reasons posted by the people who do not believe it possible andare backed up with plenty of valid reasons.  If you cannot understand the mentality I suggest you open your mind more to what people are saying.  I personally feel that it's impossible for the PS3 to reach 100 million but by the same token I can understand why people who are pro Sony may let their bias cloud their judgement into seeing a more rosy situation than is actually the case.  Bear in mind I also realise my favouritism toward the 360 may mean I don't see the PS3 situation in it's best light either which I have tried to take into account in my opinion.

People keep making this assumption that the PS3 will decrease in price like the PS2 and maintain sales like the PS2 did.  I'd love to know how this is the case when the main costs involved in manufacturing a PS3 (GPU, CPU, HDD) are all not going to be reduced in price dramatically further at the moment.  The removal of the HDD for flash memory onboard will likely save about $25-50 but that's the last big cost cutting they'll have unless they manage to convince IBM and Nvidia to die shrink the CPU and GPU further.

The one thing we can take from this generation is all other previous generations rules no longer apply.


There is a smaller cell chip die size than the one currently used in the PS3 model today, so that will reduce costs throughout the system by the reduction of size, power, and heat. Which is why the newest model is much smaller. As far as reducing it again, I don't see that happening since IBM did stop production. I wouldn't be surprised if the new PS3 was $100 to manufacture without a HDD and that's why I see a $150 16gb model happening. Potentially it could drop to $99 years down the road when a few more cost saving methods take effect over time, but I'm not sure.



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