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Which console(s) will reach 100 million?

All three consoles. 45 8.93%
 
Wii and PS3 148 29.37%
 
Wii and X360 18 3.57%
 
PS3 and X360 5 0.99%
 
Wii only 197 39.09%
 
PS3 only 44 8.73%
 
X360 only 10 1.98%
 
See results 37 7.34%
 
Total:504
bouzane said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.


The Wii is dead in the water so it's quickly becoming a non-issue to the continued success of the PS3. The 360 may prove to be more of an issue but due to it reaching a mass-market price point years before the PS3 I can not see it benefiting as much from further price cuts. I really can't see the PS3 failing to coexist with the PS4 due to the 360 and especially not the Wii.

What is this mysterious "mass market" price point (I presume you are speaking about the US and dollars?) and what do you expect to happen when the PS3 reaches it?  And what is the mass market price in the UK?  Europe?



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kowenicki said:
bouzane said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.


The Wii is dead in the water so it's quickly becoming a non-issue to the continued success of the PS3. The 360 may prove to be more of an issue but due to it reaching a mass-market price point years before the PS3 I can not see it benefiting as much from further price cuts. I really can't see the PS3 failing to coexist with the PS4 due to the 360 and especially not the Wii.

What is this mysterious "mass market" price point (I presume you are speaking about the US and dollars?) and what do you expect to happen when the PS3 reaches it?  And what is the mass market price in the UK?  Europe?


An entry model system with a price of approximately $200 US dollars is typically referred to as mass-market. As far as I can tell it is the price point at which consoles typically sell the most units (evidenced by the PS2). Personally, that's the price where I typically buy consoles.



Wii - yes. Pretty much a given.

PS3 - maybe. Requires it to get a decent tail outside core markets in the same vein as PS2, however given this worked for PS2 and Sony still seems to sell better in those markets it's not impossible. I reckon though it's unlikely. The PS3 outside US/Japan has been on the market for less time than the 360 too which could help it appeal as "newer" in emerging markets, particularly with Blu-Ray for media playback.

360 - probably not. The 360 seems too focused on Western markets and I'm sure that demand will drop off sharply once next Xbox is out. If MS really continue to support the console for a long time then I guess there's an outside chance but 360 seems to me to have the least chance. It just feels like it doesn't have enough to offer in emerging markets (weak Live, limited additional services, only plays DVD, etc) plus less brand recognition in those markets.



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bouzane said:
kowenicki said:
bouzane said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.


The Wii is dead in the water so it's quickly becoming a non-issue to the continued success of the PS3. The 360 may prove to be more of an issue but due to it reaching a mass-market price point years before the PS3 I can not see it benefiting as much from further price cuts. I really can't see the PS3 failing to coexist with the PS4 due to the 360 and especially not the Wii.

What is this mysterious "mass market" price point (I presume you are speaking about the US and dollars?) and what do you expect to happen when the PS3 reaches it?  And what is the mass market price in the UK?  Europe?


An entry model system with a price of approximately $200 US dollars is typically referred to as mass-market. As far as I can tell it is the price point at which consoles typically sell the most units (evidenced by the PS2). Personally, that's the price where I typically buy consoles.

forgive me..... but that a load of mythical nonsense.  often quoted but in isolation of the facts of the time.

the PS2 became $199 after only 18 months so of course most of its sales came after then... lol

and.... it was a the FIRST price drop and a rather hefty $100 drop at the time (33% drop)

and... $199 represented 66% of the original lauch price

(furthermore $199 in 2002 is $254 in todays money)

In comparison, the PS3 has had countless price drops, has been out for 5 1/2 years and is down to 50% of its lowest launch price.  Anyone expecting some kind of massive and continued boost for a $199 PS3 is.... frankly...  deluded.



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logic56 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.

wii is dead and the only thing keeping the 360's head above the water is the holiday kinect boost which isn't Sony's market

Actually I think the PS3 will last longer in developing countries than the ps2, once they start upgrading, becasue of how much more it adds, the established online network, free games and services, and dirt cheap yet high quality games,  the PS3 can go on indefinitely where the ps2 was only really viable becasue the ps3 was too expensive.


awesome... so much for a 10 year plan.

you couldn't make some of the stuff up we get in these threads.....



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For PS3 that's a certain.



ethomaz said:
For PS3 that's a certain.


when by?



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bouzane said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.


The Wii is dead in the water so it's quickly becoming a non-issue to the continued success of the PS3. The 360 may prove to be more of an issue but due to it reaching a mass-market price point years before the PS3 I can not see it benefiting as much from further price cuts. I really can't see the PS3 failing to coexist with the PS4 due to the 360 and especially not the Wii.

Bear in mind I'm just explaining why the PS2 and PS3 situations are different when it comes to potential legs. PS2 owned the market, PS3 does not.

For the next few years I believe the Wii will have continued success appealing to casual gamers and fans of Nintendo's 1st party lineup not looking to spend much money. The 360 has a similar userbase as the PS3 but does a better job at appealing to casual gamers.



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Mr Puggsly said:
bouzane said:
Mr Puggsly said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

Different situation.

PS2 didn't have strong competition and was a great option for those who didn't want to buy expensive next gen hardware. Sony basically owned that market.

The PS3 on the other hand has very strong competition. Don't expect PS3 to have legs like PS2 because of the Wii and 360.


The Wii is dead in the water so it's quickly becoming a non-issue to the continued success of the PS3. The 360 may prove to be more of an issue but due to it reaching a mass-market price point years before the PS3 I can not see it benefiting as much from further price cuts. I really can't see the PS3 failing to coexist with the PS4 due to the 360 and especially not the Wii.

Bear in mind I'm just explaining why the PS2 and PS3 situations are different when it comes to potential legs. PS2 owned the market, PS3 does not.

For the next few years I believe the Wii will have continued success appealing to casual gamers and fans of Nintendo's 1st party lineup not looking to spend much money. The 360 has a similar userbase as the PS3 but does a better job at appealing to casual gamers.

i dont see how the wii will have continued success. its already dead, so why would its all of a sudden start showing legs when wii u is out? also ps3 and 360 are only going to go down in price, which wont help the wii. the wii is just too outdated now. nobody see's any value in it. the best wii can hope for is to top 105m units sold and even thats unlikely.



Sales drop considerably when the successor comes to market, and even if 360/PS3 were to hit 75 million before holiday 2013, they'd take 2 or 3 more years to hit 80 million or more after the PS4/720 launch. I'd be shocked if PS3 went beyond 90 million lifetime, and even more shocked if 360 did.