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Which console(s) will reach 100 million?

All three consoles. 45 8.93%
 
Wii and PS3 148 29.37%
 
Wii and X360 18 3.57%
 
PS3 and X360 5 0.99%
 
Wii only 197 39.09%
 
PS3 only 44 8.73%
 
X360 only 10 1.98%
 
See results 37 7.34%
 
Total:504
Carl on 19 July 2012

The Wii will make it. When, depends on Wii U launch. Its not gonna pass the PlayStation.

PS3 making it will depend on a couple of things. Firstly, when PS4 / Nextbox release and secondly, how much the upcoming Slim/Cut will boost it. If it does, it wont be far over the line.

360, I can't see making it unless they go really, really cheap.



                            

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Troll_Whisperer on 19 July 2012
ironmanDX said:
Turkish said:
Wii and PS3 only. 360 relies on 1 market.


If you're referring to the casual and hardcore markets, you're logic is truely lost.

I think he means USA.



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slowmo on 19 July 2012
bouzane said:
slowmo said:
bouzane said:
Kenology said:
logic56 said:
Kenology said:
Wii will be the only console to make. You guys saying the PS3 will make it are being delusional.

really now, how many consoles did the PS2 sell AFTER the PS3 was launched

the PS3 is a gaurentee the new model this late into the generation confirms that

The fallacy that the PS3 will trend the same way the PS2 did after a PS4 launch is just that, a fallacy.  

The PS3 is NOT the PS2  - it never has been and it never will be. 

Y'all have been waiting since 2006 for the PS3 to finally "take off".  It hasn't happened.  The PS3 has already had a slim remodel.  Sony can release another slime model and have yet another price drop all it wants, it won't change the fact that it won't reach 100 million... ever.  What software is even going to push it?  (Don't say Sony titles.)

But if you want to believe it'll happen, go right ahead!


It is worth noting that the PS2 sold 21.6 million units of hardware between the 2009 and 2011 fiscal years. The system's release schedule was pretty barren during this period of time but that absolutley doesn't matter that late in a console's lifespan. Once a system is past gen tech and is retailing for $100 or less it doesn't need new software due to casual gamers, people buying replacement units and of course the developing markets. Also, I see no reason why the PS3 can't break 73 million sales by the end of the year. Considering the fact that it's successor launches, at the earliest, late 2013. I see no reason as to why it could not sell another 10 million units in 2013, especially after the introduction of a new model and a significant price cut. Sony could support the PS3 for several years afterward like they have traditionally done with all of their hardware. Sony will likely apply their past business model and support three systems simultaneously. This would be a wise decision on Sony's part as it would allow them to simultaneously target different segments of the market while recouping some of the losses they suffered from the PS3's disastrous launch. Sorry but I can not understand the mentality that believes it to be impossible for the PS3 to break 100 million unit sales.

There is plenty of reasons posted by the people who do not believe it possible andare backed up with plenty of valid reasons.  If you cannot understand the mentality I suggest you open your mind more to what people are saying.  I personally feel that it's impossible for the PS3 to reach 100 million but by the same token I can understand why people who are pro Sony may let their bias cloud their judgement into seeing a more rosy situation than is actually the case.  Bear in mind I also realise my favouritism toward the 360 may mean I don't see the PS3 situation in it's best light either which I have tried to take into account in my opinion.

People keep making this assumption that the PS3 will decrease in price like the PS2 and maintain sales like the PS2 did.  I'd love to know how this is the case when the main costs involved in manufacturing a PS3 (GPU, CPU, HDD) are all not going to be reduced in price dramatically further at the moment.  The removal of the HDD for flash memory onboard will likely save about $25-50 but that's the last big cost cutting they'll have unless they manage to convince IBM and Nvidia to die shrink the CPU and GPU further.

The one thing we can take from this generation is all other previous generations rules no longer apply.


The PS3 will likely be sitting at between 73 and 74 million units by the end of the year. A new model is likely being introduced at a lower price point this year. The PS4 may not be introduced in 2013. The PS3 will likely coexist with the PS4 in the same fashion as both of its processors. Sony has purchased Gaikai which may possibly be used to stream any amount of software to the PS3. Couple this all with growing developing markets and the current economic recovery. Then you tell me that it's perfectly logical to arrive at the conclusion that it is literally impossible for the PS3 to sell another 25-28 million units between 2013 and its discontinuation? I don't understand this mentality at all. Before you misquote me, I said the PS3's lifetime hardware sales will end somewhere between 90 and 105 million. I never said it was guaranteed to break 100 million but merely a possibility because that's exactly what it is, entirely possible. Also, the whole straw man you made with the statement about pro Sony bias and clouded judgement is kind of cute. You can forget about making such inferences about me because I'm a PC gamer who owns a 360. Don't own (or want) a Vita, haven't owned a PS3 in years and I hate Sony as a whole. It's funny how fanboys are always the first to cry fanboy themselves.

 

People have a bias that will affect their predictions, that's a fact.  Secondly the question was put that he couldn't understand others mentality, I merely said why it exists and why I thought the polar opposite.  I did not infer he was a fanboy in anyway shape or form and it wasn't a straw man argument at all as I admitted to having the same issues with possible bias clouding my predictions.  If you want to call me a fanboy come out and do it instead of hiding behind pathetic inflection. 

 

Please highlight this recovering economy by the way, the European market is shot to shit, China's exports are shrinking and the US isn't exactly rosy either.  Maybe you should take of your rose tinted spetacles and actually take a look around the globe.



Troll_Whisperer on 19 July 2012

So:

88% think Wii will make it.
49% think PS3 will make it.
15% think X360 will make it.



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bouzane on 19 July 2012
slowmo said:

 

People have a bias that will affect their predictions, that's a fact.  Secondly the question was put that he couldn't understand others mentality, I merely said why it exists and why I thought the polar opposite.  I did not infer he was a fanboy in anyway shape or form and it wasn't a straw man argument at all as I admitted to having the same issues with possible bias clouding my predictions.  If you want to call me a fanboy come out and do it instead of hiding behind pathetic inflection. 

 

Please highlight this recovering economy by the way, the European market is shot to shit, China's exports are shrinking and the US isn't exactly rosy either.  Maybe you should take of your rose tinted spetacles and actually take a look around the globe.


"by the same token I can understand why people who are pro Sony may let their bias cloud their judgement into seeing a more rosy situation than is actually the case"

I thought you were implying that I was a biased fanboy (a ludicrous assertion), I guess I was mistaken and for which I appologize. That being said, aren't we awfully touchy about being called a fanboy when you actually are one? How's that for not hiding behind inflection (I thought I was clear enough before but I guess I need to be direct too).

About the global economic recovery, it was wishful thinking and by the look of the information I'm reading through it may not happen anytime soon.



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slowmo on 19 July 2012

You're not enough worth reporting for flaming, such an ass



Troll_Whisperer on 19 July 2012
kowenicki said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
ironmanDX said:
Turkish said:
Wii and PS3 only. 360 relies on 1 market.


If you're referring to the casual and hardcore markets, you're logic is truely lost.

I think he means USA.


so he is still wrong then...

again

Not saying he isn't, I know his post history.



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NintendoPie on 19 July 2012

Wii will reach it most likely. PS3 probably will (slowly). 360 won't.



NintendoPie on 19 July 2012
kowenicki said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
ironmanDX said:
Turkish said:
Wii and PS3 only. 360 relies on 1 market.


If you're referring to the casual and hardcore markets, you're logic is truely lost.

I think he means USA.


so he is still wrong then...

again

America is obviously 360's biggest market.

He's not completely wrong.



NintendoPie on 19 July 2012
kowenicki said:
NintendoPie said:

America is obviously 360's biggest market.

He's not completely wrong.

It is also the Wii's biggest market and a very very significant market for the PS3... whats your point?

the 360 is reliant on two main markets, the PS3 is reliant on 3 main markets.

And for him to try and infer that the 360 is weakened because it is reliant, and a big seller, in the worlds biggest video game market is actually pretty hilarious and the opposite of the truth.  To be the market leader in the worlds biggest market is a pretty good thing surely?

But being a complete flop in Japan doesn't help.

America really does support it. And they will keep buying it but I doubt they will for much longer than like 1.5 years/until Durango comes out.

I never said it's a bad thing.