lol @number 6 with navteq map data. i saw a navteq car with cameras on the roof and some other weird technique this morning driving behind me for some kilometers^^
| superchunk said: EDIT: I just read a better description of this win8 winphone8 core and actually I may be fully wrong in my initial thoughts. Seems like they are going for a more identical integration. I wonder why this wasn't mentioned on Monday. The PRo version said it ran all the same apps and that wasn't even mentioned as a possibility for the RT version. Yet, I'd think the RT version is essentially winphone8. hmm. |
Your edit got it right. This was known when WOA was announced, only Metro apps would be compatible between Windows RT and Windows 8. Today Windows Phone 8 got added into the mix.
Windows 8 can run Metro and standard desktop apps. Windows RT can run Metro and Microsoft ARM dektop apps (it comes with Office). Windows phone can run Metro.
Hmm seems great! only to bad about wp7, I have one... I really want to buy wp8 but it's to early after a year :(
| superchunk said:
Looks like MS will create a divergence in its mobile line. "Microsoft got credit for ripping up Windows Mobile 6.5 and hitting the reset button: unfortunately it seems to be trying to do the same with Windows Phone 8, leaving early-adopters behind. The news from the Windows Phone Summit today that existing handsets won’t get WP8 but will, instead, get a partial upgrade called Windows Phone 7.8 with the new Metro Start Screen but not much else means everyone who has supported Microsoft and its OEM partners so far can’t expect much in the way of software longevity."
That is unexpected. I figured they'd try to copy Apple's aproach vs doing even worse than Google. |
Actually it looks like they are doing the same thing as Apple, but not in the same approach. For Example an iPhone 4 could upgrade to iOS 5, but they dont get Siri. It's the same thing with WP7.8. WP7.8 is basically the same as WP8 in terms of user interface, but it is different on the developers side. WP7.8 only suports single core processors WP8 supports up to 16cores (That is strangely huge). The only problem for WP7.8 users is they will only get apps that support .net, but WP8 users can get apps that are Core CL, The changes also mean that developers can use native C and C++ libraries, alongside SQLite and Direct X support.
TomaTito said:
Your edit got it right. This was known when WOA was announced, only Metro apps would be compatible between Windows RT and Windows 8. Today Windows Phone 8 got added into the mix. Windows 8 can run Metro and standard desktop apps. Windows RT can run Metro and Microsoft ARM dektop apps (it comes with Office). Windows phone can run Metro. |
I just think its pretty stupid to have three different platforms. RT should not exist as it should just be winphone8 and win8, especially considering the deep integration they are focusing between the two.
superchunk said:
I just think its pretty stupid to have three different platforms. RT should not exist as it should just be winphone8 and win8, especially considering the deep integration they are focusing between the two. |
That's just the point, it is one platform (win 8) but with different versions for different devices. I can see this really work because it's so easy to make an app for the three versions.
maximrace said:
That's just the point, it is one platform (win 8) but with different versions for different devices. I can see this really work because it's so easy to make an app for the three versions. |
And instead of making a bigger version of Windows Phone 8 for tablets, they made an ARM version of Windows 8 with a common core to all of them. I think it's the way to go. Look at what Google has done with Android 4, a tablet should not have blown up mobile OS, but an OS with some UI that takes advantage of the extra screen size.
Just wonder how apps will look between phone and tablet versions.
Metro is said to have good scalability, but will they just blow them up?
So I've read that WinPho 7 devices won't get the 8 upgrade, and that sucks, but if you buy a new WinPho 8 device, will all your WinPho 7 apps upgrade with you? Or are they really hitting the reset button WinMo-style and the whole ecosystem is getting rebuilt all over again?
I guess MS doesn't have too much to lose in mobile. If this really is another do-over, the pain might be worth it if it allows them to leverage better compatibility with NT-based software going forward.
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| famousringo said: So I've read that WinPho 7 devices won't get the 8 upgrade, and that sucks, but if you buy a new WinPho 8 device, will all your WinPho 7 apps upgrade with you? Or are they really hitting the reset button WinMo-style and the whole ecosystem is getting rebuilt all over again? I guess MS doesn't have too much to lose in mobile. If this really is another do-over, the pain might be worth it if it allows them to leverage better compatibility with NT-based software going forward. |
Did you read the OP?
| All existing Windows Phone 7.5 apps will work without modification on the new OS regardless of the resolution. |
WP7 devices are single core, they won't be able to get main core software upgrades, but they will be getting a UI upgrage as WP7.8
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