You haven't shown evidence for your claim either, taht Nintendo takes away sales. And that casual-gaming takes away sales of epic games is probably something you don't belkieve yourself. As Sega was going down some Sega-gamers switched to other companies, but many left gaming for good. And they did not only bought Sega-games, they also bought games of 3rd-party. The industry was hurt as a whole. The same will happen if Nintendo or Sony or MS leaves gaming-business. So if you say NIntendo should go down you hate gaming. And this is a gaming-site, you are wrong here.

Yeah, how dare I use logic as evidence. That is unacceptable. I should have known that only conclusive evidence is a wishful thought of a nintendo fan. By the way, your analysis is flawed.

When Sega was still producing consoles,

207m consoles sold

When Sega was out,

240m consoles sold and counting

That is just for consoles, let's do the math for games.

6th gen: 2,18b games sold

7th gen: 2,21b games sold... and counting

Wait.. that was your only actual argument, which could be considered as a fact. You managed to fail the one try.

The industry was always growing. The growth Sony brought covered for Sega if you look at the whole gen. But hey, you claim bold stuff, that you cannot prove (you gave no single evidence for your claim that Nintendo takes away from the games you like). I claim other stuff and have no prove either. So I don't see a point in the discussion.

As I already said, common logic will do. Try to follow this, ok?

A dollar spent on nintendo or "casual games" -

A) is a dollar which can be spent on games I prefer?

B) is a dollar which can't be spent on games I prefer?

Which is it?

Many people attracted by Nintendo would never bouhgt any games to begin with (the casual crowd). Do you really think someone who bought Just Dance would have bought some of your game-preferences if no Just Dance would have been available?

Your logic is flawed, as the people would buy with the money cinema-tickets, concert-ticket, would go to amusement parks or something like that. They would not spend money on gaming if not because of the style you don't like. So on your list above is missing the point that happens in reality:

C) would have been spend on something not gaming-related in the first-place.

To formulate it as you did: if no casual-gaming is offered, the former buyers of this will

a) spend the money on games you like?

b) spend the money on non-gaming casual stuff?

And don't forget, as the casual crowd started to be interested in gaming in the first place by these games, they might have accidently bought some games you like.

Again you also ignore, that the casual-games that you hate sooooooooo much pay for the development of games you like, that are

a) more expensive to develop

and b) sell a lot less

But I think there is no point in discussing this any more, as you hate gaming you will not accept any logic in the first place. Evidence will not pop up for your bold claims, so this discussion leaves nowhere.

Actually that is very simple and logical. You just refuse to accept that, because it goes against your argument. Do you know what logic is?

Moderated,

-Mr Khan

Yes, it is somethign very simple and logical to understand, but you refuse to accept logic to hate.

LOL comparing COD on WiiU against PS3/360 is pointless.

Established userbase of consoles vs a launch console that has sold only 2.4million units and had 20 games to choose from at launch.

Not to mention most people would already own COD on another system and have their circle of friends before the WiiU launch so why would they buy another copy just on WiiU if they got no one they know to play with?

The only way for COD to succeed on WiiU now is for the game to attract new gamers who are Nintendo only owners as no one in their right mind would switch from a PS3/360 to WiiU unless their was a valid reason to. This will take time.

Fine, I'll make a logical equasion.

X-Y=Z

And the conclusion:

X>Z, when the value of Y is higher than 0.

Everything else is just you assuming something irrelevant, based on your personal preference.