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PullusPardus said:
happydolphin said:
PullusPardus said:

You're being very optimistic, its not black and white, no bad guy and good guy ,I'm not spewing filth, I am talking about experience.

what was the american interest that lead them to go to Iraq?

@bold. I think in Iraq the vested interest was mostly oil, and possible instability in the middle east. The Zionist party is strong in the US, as well as a need for natural resources.

That's my thought. I may be wrong though. Mind you, the vested interest is a certainty. I'm just not sure as to the what.


their interest is oil and remove the old law so that more extremists show up and then they're going to sell them weapons.

of course no one does it because its a good thing to do, its just for the profit, same will happen to uganda , remove regime , act like you are doing it for good, secure oil , conquer, smash, trash then sell them weapons and watch it burn while your state gets more powerful, oldest trick in the book, "divide and conquer"

But you don't know what is cause and what is effect.

Let's say the US does intervene. This Kona is done away with. Which country will benefit the most? From what I remember from the movie, the LSA region moved from Uganda to other places. It is a regional threat against a criminal, not a national threat. That's one place of misplaced logic. Second is, if this helps those countries prosper (which it should with better order and structure), then the effect would be yes, that these countries would want more military structure as well. They can buy weapons from the states, but they can very well buy them from Europe or Russia. If they end up buying them from the states, is it part of the plan or just cause and effect?

I would be to argue it is a debatable point indeed.



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happydolphin said:
PullusPardus said:
happydolphin said:
PullusPardus said:

You're being very optimistic, its not black and white, no bad guy and good guy ,I'm not spewing filth, I am talking about experience.

what was the american interest that lead them to go to Iraq?

@bold. I think in Iraq the vested interest was mostly oil, and possible instability in the middle east. The Zionist party is strong in the US, as well as a need for natural resources.

That's my thought. I may be wrong though. Mind you, the vested interest is a certainty. I'm just not sure as to the what.


their interest is oil and remove the old law so that more extremists show up and then they're going to sell them weapons.

of course no one does it because its a good thing to do, its just for the profit, same will happen to uganda , remove regime , act like you are doing it for good, secure oil , conquer, smash, trash then sell them weapons and watch it burn while your state gets more powerful, oldest trick in the book, "divide and conquer"

But you don't know what is cause and what is effect.

Let's say the US does intervene. This Kona is done away with. Which country will benefit the most? From what I remember from the movie, the LSA region moved from Uganda to other places. It is a regional threat against a criminal, not a national threat. That's one place of misplaced logic. Second is, if this helps those countries prosper (which it should with better order and structure), then the effect would be yes, that these countries would want more military structure as well. They can buy weapons from the states, but they can very well buy them from Europe or Russia. If they end up buying them from the states, is it part of the plan or just cause and effect?

I would be to argue it is a debatable point indeed.


Uganda doesn't have a law, an army, so if these guys are wiped out, then new organizations are going to show up and more people are going to be hurt, kidnapped and brainwashed, this happened in afghanistan and iraq, and also happened in libya and egypt (even though america has nothing to do with it) America will be to blame, terrorists will blow stuff up left and right , and it might be another september 11, because these groups can act they way they want, they don't give a damn about a bunch of kids who are going to die, they only want to live their life of richness and wealth, even if it means stepping on countless dead bodies.

America should not meddle with what they don't know, they should focus on their own problems first, and right now they have a lot of problems, i thought americans are happy that their troops got back home, so why would they want to send them into hell again? , instead of investing too much on warfare , deal with your econemy.

sorry if i seem to be talking to you as you were responsible or something, i just wanted to get my point across, so you would understand it better, of course its not your fault or anything and you're not american to begin with



PullusPardus said:

Uganda doesn't have a law, an army, so if these guys are wiped out, then new organizations are going to show up and more people are going to be hurt, kidnapped and brainwashed, this happened in afghanistan and iraq, and also happened in libya and egypt (even though america has nothing to do with it) America will be to blame, terrorists will blow stuff up left and right , and it might be another september 11, because these groups can act they way they want, they don't give a damn about a bunch of kids who are going to die, they only want to live their life of richness and wealth, even if it means stepping on countless dead bodies.

America should not meddle with what they don't know, they should focus on their own problems first, and right now they have a lot of problems, i thought americans are happy that their troops got back home, so why would they want to send them into hell again? , instead of investing too much on warfare , deal with your econemy.

sorry if i seem to be talking to you as you were responsible or something, i just wanted to get my point across, so you would understand it better, of course its not your fault or anything and you're not american to begin with

Exactly haha. 

I think what you're saying is really true. No country is without its share of problems. The thing is, some people within America want to go out and help other countries, and truly help. These people with a heart for those places are usually informed, they know what is going on, have travelled abroad and are aware of the issues. Most of the time, they are willing to be part of the community and help them build themselves up.

I think where the Kona group is appealing to the government is that, to topple the local war criminal, they feel inadequate. They have technology, they have the willingness to help, but they don't have military abilities. For that, they appealed to their government, which is honorable. Whether the country is or was involved in wars in the past for other reasons is a different story, since this Kona plea comes from the people itself, and not from within the governing body. Lastly, they are pleading for assisted military aid, not specifically war troops, but strategists. It paints a very different story.





Not sure what to say, saw the documentary and it has a compelling reason to help these people out. There definitely seems to be quite a bit of non-american eye witnesses, lawyers, and politicians. I don't think asking for the arrest, trial, and ultimate judgement of Kony is a bad goal at all and I've been very surprised at the amount of shrugging going towards it. Thank goodness it's only a vocal minority so far. Seems like the goals of this campaign can be met the way it's going.



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I agreed with it until I saw the "cover the night" thing. And when people started spamming "KONY 2012" all over the internet it got quite annoying. I still agree with the basis of it though.



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Its a fraud IMO. When people started pointing out the fraud, invisible children disabled their comments on their video. Invisible children also support Ugandan army - the ones that loot and kill their own civilians and SPLA - the ones that do exact same things that Kony and LRA are doing