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To people who say there was CoD on the PSP and it wasnt huge, well it was a WW2 game and released before CoD became so popular, and with 1 joystick many people didnt like it.

Now you can play a real shooter on the Vita with great graphics



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RolStoppable said:
Gilgamesh said:

My argument is to say why can't the Vita beat the 3DS?

Everyone replies, "it can't vita won't beat Nintendo they make the best handhelds and everyone buys them!" Everyone bought the NES And SNES until Sony showed up then everyone bought PS1 and PS2's now it's back to the Wii, it's to random to say Nintendo will win for the sake of Nintendos track record for handhelds, the PSP  did great against the DS compared to any other handheld, we know it's doable 70 milion PSP's sold is impressive.

Of course it's silly to say that one company will win simply because it won before. What needs to be done is an analysis of what each company is doing. Most importantly, what games do they make and what can they expect from third parties.

When it comes to first party software, Nintendo wins hands down. Third parties have already released important games for the 3DS or will do so soon (like Kingdom Hearts in Japan next month). Monster Hunter is 3DS exclusive, this means Sony has zero guaranteed million sellers in Japan while the 3DS has already three released with more to follow.

Selling 70m Vitas won't be enough to beat the 3DS. It doesn't even look like the Vita will get to 70m anyway. It's tracking/will track below the PSP in all markets in the coming months while the 3DS will extend its 15m lead. Those aren't exactly numbers that will Sony help to garner more third party support and fewer big games being released will lead to lower hardware sales. It's basically impossible for the PSV to close the gap to the 3DS under these circumstances.

3rd parties will have the same reason to not support 3DS as they did with Wii - Nintendo itself.

Nintendo will take a huge part of market itself as they always do which means rest of companies will have to compete in crowded space against 3rd party behemoths like Resident or Monster Hunter.

Add to that barely existing digital market and easy porting from consoles to PSV and chances are western devs and smaller japanise companies will choose Vita instead of 3DS.

People think that Japan is the key to handheld success. It was in past gens because west didn't care about handhelds as they were inferior to consoles. Vita now opens possibilities of handheld which can fully accept solutions from home console market.

Also in DS vs PSP - DS had a huge advantage of battery life few times longer than PSP which people many time quoted as a reason to choose DS. That advantage is gone.



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Gilgamesh said:
RolStoppable said:
Gilgamesh said:

To the people that bring up the PSP/DS argument, has this gen taught you anything?? The one thing we all know is that history rarely repeats itself. Anything can happen and simply saying that because DS (one of many big handheld's Nintendo came out with and dominated) beat PSP (Sony's first real handheld and only handheld to put up a fight with Nintendo's handhelds) is just stupid, it's invalid.

The PSP/DS argument is much better than yours which is blind faith. Just saying.


My argument is to say why can't the Vita beat the 3DS?

Everyone replies, "it can't vita won't beat Nintendo they make the best handhelds and everyone buys them!" Everyone bought the NES And SNES until Sony showed up then everyone bought PS1 and PS2's now it's back to the Wii, it's to random to say Nintendo will win for the sake of Nintendos track record for handhelds, the PSP  did great against the DS compared to any other handheld, we know it's doable 70 milion PSP's sold is impressive.


The better question is 'why should the Vita beat the 3DS'? What has it got going for it that will make people choose to buy it over Nintendos device?

While it has some advantages over the 3DS (more powerful hardware and a better OS) it is well behind in several important areas - price, system selling games (both current and announced) and the level of brand recognition.

I'm not saying it's impossible for it to outsell the 3DS, the gaming market can change pretty rapidly at times afterall. However on current evidence it certainly seems much more likely for the 3DS to come out on top in the end.



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Zlejedi said:

3rd parties will have the same reason to not support 3DS as they did with Wii - Nintendo itself.

Nintendo will take a huge part of market itself as they always do which means rest of companies will have to compete in crowded space against 3rd party behemoths like Resident or Monster Hunter.

Add to that barely existing digital market and easy porting from consoles to PSV and chances are western devs and smaller japanise companies will choose Vita instead of 3DS.

People think that Japan is the key to handheld success. It was in past gens because west didn't care about handhelds as they were inferior to consoles. Vita now opens possibilities of handheld which can fully accept solutions from home console market.

Also in DS vs PSP - DS had a huge advantage of battery life few times longer than PSP which people many time quoted as a reason to choose DS. That advantage is gone.

Then how come the Nintendo DS and Gameboy sold oh so many millions upon millions of consoles in those markets? The DS sold more in both America and Europe than any other 7th gen console.



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Main seller being 3D?

Are you still living in the past or something, Nintendo has long shifted their marketing strategy as pitching 3DS as ONLY a 3D device.

"I dunno how long Nintendo can keep up the remakes and sequels to the same games they have, how many more decades are people going to buy basically the same game with updated graphics and a new name of console next to the title, not saying they don't make new IP's but they really should invest more money in it."

That's only for the couple of games right?

"There's a huge library of games out now can be ported to the PS Vita with similar graphics, huge potential."

Now you're talking about porting games being a "huge potential"? What happened to the idea of the importance of creating new IPs.

But of course, we shall see.



Gilgamesh said:

I've said it many times Nintendo has held the handheld crown for far to long the Vita is hear and it's a force to reckon with. 

Games like Monstrer Hunter, Resident evil and Final fantasy hit in Japan there's no telling how high sales can get,

Now I can see the 3DS market drying up within a few years, there main seller is the 3D 


Actually, the main sellers on 3DS in Japan are games like Monster Hunter and Resident Evil; and also Mario Kart, and Mario Land 3D. Pokemon is also an inevitable title, and Monster Hunter 4 is still to come as well. 

From what we have seen so far, Vita might end up being the lowest selling handheld system from major hardware company since the Sega Gamegear.

 

Add to the fact that when the Wii U hits, and with far greater support, the PSP Vita will effectively be obsolete.



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