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osamanobama on 27 October 2011
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
 

its ignorant because its not grounded in reality or popular opinion.

sure you can personally think Uncharted multiplayer is boring (though i dont know how, no other game, has nearly as much varrying gameplay), thats fine. but to generalize definitifely stating it is boring, and doesnt deserve a 10 because of that. is ludicrous, as well as say "since not everyone thinks its perfect then it doesnt deserve a 10" then you go on to say Zelda deserves/close to a 10.  is hilarious. and then you go on to say no game deserves a 10 (didnt see you complaining about the 10's Gears, forza and Halo got), why iven have that score then, reviewers should rate based off a 0-9.5 system then, whats the point of the 10.

also ign almost unanimously reviewers rave about Uncharted's multi is amazing, saying it could be sold as its own full price game. you are alone in thinking its average and boring (though its laughable that you base that off 20 min of player, if you actually did play that much). literally you are alone in this one, how you think it is boring is beyond me (well actually its not, that is a very common trend on which games you find boring)..

and a game can be designed for both Single player, and multiplayer, which Uncharted clearly is. the devs spent tons of time perfecting both. also most reviewers have been saying the campaign is about the same length as Uncharted 2, and or a Dozen or so hours.

and again your last paragraph cant possible be serious can it? ND does multi because they want to, and they are great at it. it couldnt be anything further from being tacked on, it was planned on in the beginning, and was perfected, and the reviewers shared those sentiments, praising both U2 and U3 for some of the best multi out there.  you say so definitevely that it boring, tacked-on,, unnatural, yet you are virtually the only person that thinks so.

How you think Uncharted 2/3 beta multiplayer is anything but average baffles me....Maybe your just used to average MP games.

I know there is no point arguing with you.

IGN is giving out 10's too easily, this is a great game, but IGN is a terrible review website nowdays. 9.8/10, I'd accept, UC3 is likely a great game (judging from UC2). 4 10's in 3 years is too much..

Uncharted was built to be a single player game, the mechanics just don't commute to MP. That was the case in UC2, and judging by the beta it's the same in UC3. The review said the MP isn't perfect, and they give rewards too frequently.

IGN said the campaign was short (yes they did say short) at about 8 hours, not a dozen. Stop plain out lying.

Not going to argue anymore. Your far too insulting, and you twist my arguements to make me look like a 360 fanboy...(didn't see me complain about the scores Halo, Gears, and Forza got, why just list 360 games? Did any of these get 10/10?).

If I don't agree with you 100% I'm a fanboy, you want to make me out to be one, and I refuse to debate with someone like this. It's rude, and plain uncivil.

Seriously osama, it's a great game. Get a life. People will not agree with you 100%. If IGN gave Halo a 10/10 I'd say the exact same thing, but there would also be 10 other people saying it, and no one would attack me. Why does it have to be this hard to say anything negative about any PS3 exclusive?

ClassicGamingWizz - I never said the game doesn't deserve a high score. I said it's a great game, but IGN shouldn't be giving out 10's so easily. No game should get a 10 unless it defined the entire generation and introduced a whole new method of gameplay. UC3, no matter how much better then UC2 it may be, is still largely similar to UC2, and that was a 9.5/10 on IGN? I'm saying the game deserves a 9.8/10, but ANYTIME, ANY FREAKEN TIME, I say the slightest negative comment on any PS3 exclusive, I will get attacked by 5 people.

lol, man your too funny.

like i said YOU and ONLY YOU think Uncharted multiplaer is average, its not just me thinking its amazing, its EVERYONE. almost unanimously reviewers have praised Uncharted 2 multiplayer, some going as far as to say "it could be sold as its own full priced game", and now reviewers are saying Uncharted 3's multiplayer is much much better. in fact some site gave it the best multiplayer of E3.

and when did i ever say ign said its campaign was a dozen hours  (actually i cant remember ign even referencing the lenght)

then you talk about how 10 is too high, 9.8 you can accept (a score they dont give), how can you say that about a game that you have never played.

and for the other games, go to metacritic.com, is it really that hard to check the reviews on that site, those games got plenty of 10's none of which you complained about.

and i dont give a hell if you dont like the game, but when you go around stating YOUR OPINIONS as facts, or as common shared believes, thats where i have the problem.

YOU ARE LITTERERALLY THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS UNCHARTED'S MULTIPLAYER IS AVERGE.

and guess what when people really love the single player, and really love its multiplayer, and really love everything about it, finding little to no faults, they sometimes give out a 10.

your opinion of this game isnt shared by nearly anybody



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SlumsofOhio on 27 October 2011

Multiplayer, after playing it through the Subway promotion, is about as average as it gets. I'm getting the game, but its definitely for the single player, not the multiplayer.



                                   

o_O.Q on 27 October 2011
Michael-5 said:
o_O.Q said:
 

"they did, they also said it's about 8 hours and I think in the UC2 review they said the game is about 10 hours. So double verification :P"

quote? link?

Watch the reviews

"That's my point, don't take it too personally"

nah its not about me taking this personally or whatever its about the fact that if i see someone is making broad claims like "the multiplayer is tacked on" i'm going to dispute that just like how in the forza thread recently you made sure to reply to anyone who made a negative point about forza and tell them about how their opinions are wrong and why in yours its the best sim this gen

 

"OoT was much more highly praised then UC3 (metascore 94/100) at the time it released."

uncharted 3 sits at 94 currently... 

point being?

 

"It was a legendary game that 1 in 3 N64 owners bought. You might not agree, but the amount of people who don't think OoT was the best game ever is very very minimal compared to the number of people who don't think any other IGN 10/10 is the best game ever."

and how could you possibly know that? yes its a highly acclaimed and recognised game but so were san andreas, gta 4 etc "1 in 3 N64 owners bought" 1 in 3 n64 owners isn't that impressive as it didn't sell that much in the first place

Actually you are forcing your opinions onto others. IGN gave it 1 high review, while the metascore is still lower then Uncharted 2. Osama says the game is perfect, and presses that issue. How is that not forcing opinion other others?

I say 1 negative comment about UC3, and 3 strong Sony fans at least come to attack me. How is that not pressing opinions?

For Gametrailers, I'm making a statement, not an opinion. IGN is loosing credibility nowdays. 4 10/10's, that's unheard of. Gametrailers is becoming a much better review agency, and IMO it already is and has been for quite some time. There is the difference between opinion and fact.

You are taking it personally, and being rude. Why can't anyone say anything negative about ANY PS3 exclusive and not get chewed out? Your forcing your opinions onto others and making fun of them with pictures of cats rolling their eyes and saying they can't understand concepts of reviews. Where is my cat rolling it's eyes at you huh?

MP is tacked on, but I will add IMO to that now because I see many people don't agree with me, and I'm shocked. People in the beta themselves said they weren't impressed, but on these forums....just wow, the difference is huge. Let's see how long it takes before people stop playing the game multiplayer anymore.

As for Forza, people came in making stupid claims, like Forza 4 car graphics are on par to GT5 standard car graphics. That's just complete bull. People said the physics in Forza 4 is not sim quality, and GT5 is another level, that's also bull. For every intelligent poster who said "both GT5 and Forza 4 have their traits" I didn't argue with them, and actually discussed with them. This is different from what I am doing here because never do I once call Uncharted 3 shit, but the way you treat others, other people who like the game, makes me feel the fans on this website are shit.

Can't say anything anti ANY PS3 game, this is pathetic.

As for Ocarina of Time, it sold close to 10 million! That's more then any PS3 exclusive has or will sell, and it did it with half the userbase. When this game came out, people were going much more Ape-Shit now then they were for Uncharted 3. Also, just read outside of these forums, OoT is highly regarded and to most gamers, the best game ever made. IGN do a top 100 games almost annoually and OoT consistantly comes ontop. It's not just IGN, but I have yet to find one full in depth list of top games where OoT wasn't #1, and I would be very shocked to see it outside the top 5.

"Actually you are forcing your opinions onto others"

how is that so? by questioning your claims?


"I say 1 negative comment about"

talk about the pot calling the kettle black anyone who didn't so much as say forza is the king of all racing games a week ago got attacked by you... true or false?


"For Gametrailers, I'm making a statement, not an opinion"

nope thats still an opinion...

 

"Why can't anyone say anything negative about ANY PS3 exclusive and not get chewed out?"

thats not what this is about and never was... if i went into a forza thread and claimed that, for example, the online modes  for the game or worthless, tacked on and add no value i'm quite sure you and a gang of other guys would attack me... why? because it is a ridiculous claim the same exact thing is happening here


"Where is my cat rolling it's eyes at you huh?"

here go to town : 

 http://www.google.com/search?q=eye+roll&hl=en&biw=1538&bih=839&site=webhp&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=KKypTq-4JMXMtgey8tka&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAQ

 

"Why can't anyone say anything negative about ANY PS3 exclusive"

the sad thing about a statement like this is that you seem to be implying it doesn't happen outside the ps3 as well...

 

"As for Forza, people came in making stupid claims"

lol they did? 

"I didn't argue with them, and actually discussed with them"

you discussed it with them? so how is that any different to whats going on here? do i have a knife pointed at you or something that you feel so threatened? was it the fluffy little cat?

as for ocarina of time whatever thats unrelated anyway but as far as i know the gta series more highly regarded in terms of the adventure/open world genre i could be wrong of course

 

"they did, they also said it's about 8 hours and I think in the UC2 review they said the game is about 10 hours. So double verification :P"

quote? link?

Watch the reviews

which review in particular... they are many obviously, or is this like the other claim you made before when you suddenly realise that the reviewer never said that

 

"People in the beta themselves said they weren't impressed"

no way! you must be joking dude! guess what though... that happens with all games... people weren't impressed with the killzone beta, the bf 3 beta, etc all games known to be more multiplayer focused... that doesn't mean however that all people are not impressed unless of course during the beta you interviewed every single person who played?

 



Michael-5 on 27 October 2011
pezus said:
Michael-5 said:

2. UC3's metascore is 94/100, which is actually 2 points below Uncharted 2. I think it's safe to say many people will agree with me. IGN is giving 10/10's too easily. I would have been happy if they just gave 9.8/10, which is still high, but it's a good game.

3. Last point about UC MP.. Any game with a score 9/10 or greater has better MP then Uncharted, and I'm being lenient. Killzone, Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Battlefield 3, even Bioshock 2.

2. *Facepalm* IGN only rate on a 20 point scale, they changed it some time ago. You can imagine that UC3 is a 9.8 game if you want, it would still have got a 10 from IGN.

3. That's just bullshit and you know it. You said it yourself, you have played it for 20 MINUTES. Bioshock 2 has crappy multiplayer; you most likely have not even played BF3; GTA multiplayer wasn't very good; Killzone's and Call of Duty's multiplayer is very good though. 

2. That' a stupid system to use. So if the score were 97, would it be rounded to 95/100? How come some games still get score of 94/100?

This actually supports my arguement, IGN's rating system is seriously flawed.

3. I played BF3 on my friends PC, it's fun, and I used to play a little BF2, so I have something to get it to. Bioshock multiplayer was decent, like UC3, GTAIV multiplayer, again decent.

I didn't want to include 360 exclusives to the debate, lets ignore all the above titles, you still agree Killzone and CoD multiplayer is better then UC3? Is it a big difference for you?

As for your IMDB comment, good call, guess that's like the user score on a website, or metacritic. Still IGN should make reviews which respresent them as a company. If an individual gives a game a 10/10, and they want that to represent the website as a whole, they should have othr people look over it. The individuals who review games at IGN seem to give 10/10 out too easily this gen.

That said, Uncharted 3 could be the most deserving title for 10/10, but then MGS4, SMG2, and GTAIV should not have gotten 10/10. There is only room for one pinnacle game every gen, it's hardly a pinnacle of gaming if one of these games come out every year.

This is my arguement, people need to stop attacking me for my view on Uncharted, and stop twisting my arguement to whatever they feel like. I say good and bad things about all games, and I will defend games which I feel are disrespected. If people talked about Uncharted the way they do about Forza 4, I would do the exact same thing (as soon as I play UC3) on this thead as I did the other.

Read the IGN review. It says the game is 8 hours long, and Uncharted 2 is 10 hours. "The game is give or take about 10 hours in length, which feels right.."-UC2 In the UC3 video review they say the game is 8 hours.

Wait your right, Portal 2 and Forza 4 got 9.5 on IGN, along with Mass Effect 2 (PS3). My mistake, got the websites mixed up, I admit when I'm wrong. However 94/100 for Forza 4 and 90/100 for Portal 2 are still fair scores. GT also gave GT5 a 90/100 where IGN gave it an 85/100.

osama your hilarious. You are show incredible bias. Only me? Maybe on this website, but it's not only me. This website also lacks people who own more then just a PS3. Look at the metascore, read the reviews, not everyone thinks so highly of UC3 multiplayer. The same goes with many franchises, but I honestly feel UC3 multiplayer is acked on. It reminds me of Resident Evil 5 Versus.

My whole arguement is no game should get 10/10, and IGN should really change their rating system if 9.5 is the highest legitimate score they can give. IGN is flawed, that's my arguement, stop twisting it around to be something else. I am also an Uncharted fan, so ignoring me, and forcing an image onto me.

If you want to just sit around mock me, go ahead, but you are not worth debating with if that's the path you choose. So far, that appears to be your goal. Accept other people have different opinions, and move on. If you want to debate with me, debate with the arguement I am presenting, stop making an arguement up yourself.



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Michael-5 on 27 October 2011
o_O.Q said:
 

"Actually you are forcing your opinions onto others"

how is that so? by questioning your claims?

No by telling me the game is perfect, and that since I can't see this then I am wrong and such.

"I say 1 negative comment about"

talk about the pot calling the kettle black anyone who didn't so much as say forza is the king of all racing games a week ago got attacked by you... true or false?

If people said they prefer GT5 and gave a legitimate reason, I accepted and did not debate their opinion. When people aregued that GT5 was supperior because of a flaw Forza 4 did not have, I did push that point onto those people. Everyone who was debating civilly came to that conclusion above, I only pushed it on the people who were making arguements to the game that made no sense (e.g. graphics in Forza 4 or physics in Forza 4 suck, when in reality they are at or above GT's level).

I did not once tell anyone who said that both games looked and felt the same they are wrong, everyone has personal preference, and some like GT5's structure better. However most agreed, Forza 4 is a better game. Even if the physics and graphics are on par, Forza 4 has more game qualities and that's why it has a higher score on almost any website.

"For Gametrailers, I'm making a statement, not an opinion"

nope thats still an opinion...

No I'm not trying to present it as my opinion, I want people to discuss this matter. Do you agree or disagree that Gametrailers ratings are fairer? In the other Forza thread I discussed this, and many agreed, and I wish to discuss this here, but people ignore my arguement because they'd rather argue the 10/10 score Uncharted 3 specifically got, when my arguement isn't even specific towards Uncharted 3.

"Why can't anyone say anything negative about ANY PS3 exclusive and not get chewed out?"

thats not what this is about and never was... if i went into a forza thread and claimed that, for example, the online modes  for the game or worthless, tacked on and add no value i'm quite sure you and a gang of other guys would attack me... why? because it is a ridiculous claim the same exact thing is happening here

YES it is. My arguement is about IGN, and I said that UC3 MP isn't perfect. BTW it was the GT review which pointed out the flaws in MP, I mixed them up (sorry). This was and always was a side point, my main point ws always that IGN ratings are shit now days, and this arguement was ignored because.... I insulted a PS3 game.

geez, some people are soo defensive of PS3 games (not necesarily you), that they will defend the game more then participate in the debate.

"Where is my cat rolling it's eyes at you huh?"

here go to town : 

 http://www.google.com/search?q=eye+roll&hl=en&biw=1538&bih=839&site=webhp&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=KKypTq-4JMXMtgey8tka&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CAsQ_AUoAQ

Won't stoop to that level..

"Why can't anyone say anything negative about ANY PS3 exclusive"

the sad thing about a statement like this is that you seem to be implying it doesn't happen outside the ps3 as well...

On this website, a lot more people critisize 360, and even Wii exclusives, but I don't see as much of a userbase defending those games. I specifically defend Forza a lot, I know that, I'M COCO for racing games. Others specifically defend ALL PS3 exclusives. For instance, osama has attacked me on Uncharted 3, GT5, InFamous 1 (I didn't even say anything negative about the game, he attacked me for saying "almost sld 2 million" instad of "will sell over 2 million"), and Killzone 3. I love all 4 of those games (well I assume I'll love UC3), why am I getting attacked for them?

"As for Forza, people came in making stupid claims"

lol they did? 

lol, I know I sound like an ass saying Uncharted 3 MP was average. Maybe I did express my opinion as the general concensus, but before this thread, except for the IGN review, most people (real life and on VGC) did follow me. I did not mean to insult this game, and I appended my expression.

"I didn't argue with them, and actually discussed with them"

you discussed it with them? so how is that any different to whats going on here? do i have a knife pointed at you or something that you feel so threatened? was it the fluffy little cat?

I just hate arguements where people call me ignorant, or a fanboy, or unable to understand. Insults are not required in a debate.

as for ocarina of time whatever thats unrelated anyway but as far as i know the gta series more highly regarded in terms of the adventure/open world genre i could be wrong of course

GTA is highly regarded, but Vice City and San Andreas are rehashed, and GTA IV wasn't as big as OoT was. Just look at IGN's Top 100 every year OoT gets #1, and it's the same for many other websites. When this game came out, it was huge.

"they did, they also said it's about 8 hours and I think in the UC2 review they said the game is about 10 hours. So double verification :P"

quote? link?

Watch the reviews

which review in particular... they are many obviously, or is this like the other claim you made before when you suddenly realise that the reviewer never said that

I replied to pezus, read that. I said I mixed up the reviews, GT called it short, but they both said 8 hours, and IGN said UC2 was 10 hours. So it is shorter, that much you really can't argue.

"People in the beta themselves said they weren't impressed"

no way! you must be joking dude! guess what though... that happens with all games... people weren't impressed with the killzone beta, the bf 3 beta, etc all games known to be more multiplayer focused... that doesn't mean however that all people are not impressed unless of course during the beta you interviewed every single person who played?

like I said, before this thread, I thought most were inimpressed with the multiplayer. I can clearly see, at least on VGC, there are some people who really love it. I don't know why, but I love Lost Planet 1 MP, so I can kind of understand how you feel. It's silly fun MP, not as serious as CoD or other games, but you still care about K/D.

See I can be a good person to debate with if you give me a chance. I know what I like, and I'm ot afraid to say it, even if it's a minority expression. No game is iniversally loved.



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Michael-5 on 27 October 2011
pezus said:
Michael-5 said:

2. That' a stupid system to use. So if the score were 97, would it be rounded to 95/100? How come some games still get score of 94/100?

This actually supports my arguement, IGN's rating system is seriously flawed.

3. I played BF3 on my friends PC, it's fun, and I used to play a little BF2, so I have something to get it to. Bioshock multiplayer was decent, like UC3, GTAIV multiplayer, again decent.

I didn't want to include 360 exclusives to the debate, lets ignore all the above titles, you still agree Killzone and CoD multiplayer is better then UC3? Is it a big difference for you?

As for your IMDB comment, good call, guess that's like the user score on a website, or metacritic. Still IGN should make reviews which respresent them as a company. If an individual gives a game a 10/10, and they want that to represent the website as a whole, they should have othr people look over it. The individuals who review games at IGN seem to give 10/10 out too easily this gen.

That said, Uncharted 3 could be the most deserving title for 10/10, but then MGS4, SMG2, and GTAIV should not have gotten 10/10. There is only room for one pinnacle game every gen, it's hardly a pinnacle of gaming if one of these games come out every year.

This is my arguement, people need to stop attacking me for my view on Uncharted, and stop twisting my arguement to whatever they feel like. I say good and bad things about all games, and I will defend games which I feel are disrespected. If people talked about Uncharted the way they do about Forza 4, I would do the exact same thing (as soon as I play UC3) on this thead as I did the other.

Read the IGN review. It says the game is 8 hours long, and Uncharted 2 is 10 hours. "The game is give or take about 10 hours in length, which feels right.."-UC2 In the UC3 video review they say the game is 8 hours.

Wait your right, Portal 2 and Forza 4 got 9.5 on IGN, along with Mass Effect 2 (PS3). My mistake, got the websites mixed up, I admit when I'm wrong. However 94/100 for Forza 4 and 90/100 for Portal 2 are still fair scores. GT also gave GT5 a 90/100 where IGN gave it an 85/100.

osama your hilarious. You are show incredible bias. Only me? Maybe on this website, but it's not only me. This website also lacks people who own more then just a PS3. Look at the metascore, read the reviews, not everyone thinks so highly of UC3 multiplayer. The same goes with many franchises, but I honestly feel UC3 multiplayer is acked on. It reminds me of Resident Evil 5 Versus.

My whole arguement is no game should get 10/10, and IGN should really change their rating system if 9.5 is the highest legitimate score they can give. IGN is flawed, that's my arguement, stop twisting it around to be something else. I am also an Uncharted fan, so ignoring me, and forcing an image onto me.

If you want to just sit around mock me, go ahead, but you are not worth debating with if that's the path you choose. So far, that appears to be your goal. Accept other people have different opinions, and move on. If you want to debate with me, debate with the arguement I am presenting, stop making an arguement up yourself.

The 94 ratings you see on IGN are from when they were still using the old system. Nowadays they only rate with .0 and .5. 

IGN can't really predict the future, can they? Should they wait until the end of the gen and rate all the best games then and pick the best one to get a 10? That wouldn't work...

I'd say the multiplayer of Killzone and Call of Duty and UC3 is on about the same level. Call of Duty is getting old though, Uncharted feels fresh when you start to unlock all the good stuff and learn to traverse the environment quickly and efficiently.

Uncharted 2 wasn't really 10 hours though, it was closer to 8-9 for me so maybe UC3 will be just as long as UC2 for me? 

There new system is stupid. Do you agree? This is my arguement.

I know IGN can't predict the future, but they can't give every jaw dropping game they see a 10. They have to restrain themselves more. They didn't do this last gen, or any gen before, and there were plenty of near perfect titles back then too.

For length, UC2 took me 10.5 hours because I explored a bit. UC1 took like 6.5 hours or so, and those are about the times GT took. If they say it's shorter then UC2, I see no reason why we can't assume it isn't. If the same person took 10 hours to beat UC2 and took 8 to beat UC3, then maybe you will beat UC3 in 7 hours? I dunno.

8 hours is still good, and it's quality not quantitiy.

Don't hate me for saying this, but I'd rather have them fix the bugs in platforming, then make the game longer. Uncarted 2 wasn't as bad, but this one scene where you have to climb a pole and jump to a roof, UC2 would just not allow Drake to look at the other roof. Took me 10 minutes to get past that stupid glitch, and it happened more then once. However to be fair Naughty Dog does tackle more in gameplay then anyone else, and I really hope UC3 improves the climbing system by as much or more as they did from UC1 to UC2.



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slowmo on 27 October 2011

I personally think there is no point in having a 10 point scale if you refuse to give a 10, the point is that you should rate out of 10 and not reserve the holy 10 for once in a lifetime games. Uncharted 2 deserved a 10 upon release yet if you reviewed it after playing Uncharted 3 it would obivously now score less. That still doesn't mean I think it should have been marked less on release to leave "room" for other games.

A review should be relevant at the time of release only, scores after that time have little relevance as the industry moves quickly. I agree on the GTA front with people who say it should never have got a 10 as it quite blatantly wasn't that great a game for a lot of people imo.



Michael-5 on 28 October 2011
pezus said:
Michael-5 said:

There new system is stupid. Do you agree? This is my arguement.

I know IGN can't predict the future, but they can't give every jaw dropping game they see a 10. They have to restrain themselves more. They didn't do this last gen, or any gen before, and there were plenty of near perfect titles back then too.

For length, UC2 took me 10.5 hours because I explored a bit. UC1 took like 6.5 hours or so, and those are about the times GT took. If they say it's shorter then UC2, I see no reason why we can't assume it isn't. If the same person took 10 hours to beat UC2 and took 8 to beat UC3, then maybe you will beat UC3 in 7 hours? I dunno.

8 hours is still good, and it's quality not quantitiy.

Don't hate me for saying this, but I'd rather have them fix the bugs in platforming, then make the game longer. Uncarted 2 wasn't as bad, but this one scene where you have to climb a pole and jump to a roof, UC2 would just not allow Drake to look at the other roof. Took me 10 minutes to get past that stupid glitch, and it happened more then once. However to be fair Naughty Dog does tackle more in gameplay then anyone else, and I really hope UC3 improves the climbing system by as much or more as they did from UC1 to UC2.

I quite like their new system, now gamers won't argue when an exclusive game gets a .1 lower than another exclusive game on another console. It also eliminates the whining that happens when they rate one version of a multiplayer game .1 or .2 lower than the other.

At bolded: Well, that's where you're mistaken.

Games from last gen that would have a 10/10 with the new system:

Gran Turismo 3 - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/163/163846p1.html
Metroid Prime 3 - http://cube.ign.com/articles/376/376866p1.html
GTA:SA - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/559/559560p1.html
RE:4 - http://cube.ign.com/articles/577/577841p1.html
God of War - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/596/596778p1.html
Jade Empire - http://xbox.ign.com/articles/602/602787p1.html
Halo 2 - http://xbox.ign.com/articles/557/557509p1.html
MGS3: Subsistence - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/694/694781p1.html
And more that I didn't bother listing

NONE of those are 10/10. Do you not understand my point? There is a difference between 9.8/10 and 10/10. IGN never gave 10/10 out soo easily.I'm not objective of a 9.5/10 or 9.8/10 score, just 10/10 should not be given out so easily. It should be a more reserved score.

Examples from other gens: GT2, MGS, Super Mario 64, Perfect Dark, Dragon Warrior III, Conker's Bad Fur Day etc. etc. You get the point

Maybe they should just included grading to the .1 above 9/10 because that this point any little flaw in the game is critical to it's score.



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yo_john117 on 28 October 2011
pezus said:
Michael-5 said:
yo_john117 said:
Cirio said:
non-gravity said:
but but is it better than Mass Effect 2?

Nothing but Mass Effect 3 can be better than Mass Effect 2. But Uncharted 2+3 are 3rd best :P

I have to say I can't disagree with you on that :D

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/106/1064323p1.html

IGN, the people who gave Uncharted 3 a 10/10, also said that Mass Effect 2 is a better game then Uncharted 2, and made that article to back themselves up.

Mass Effect 3... will be huge. If IGN gave UC3 a 10/10 for a perfect story and tacked on multiplayer, I expect ME3 to get the same from them.

I'm sorry but if recent Bioware games are any indication there's no way in hell that ME3 gets a 10. And a perfect story?? WTH, ME2's story was just bad (while the storytelling was pretty good), gameplay was uninspired, repetitive mini-games etc. etc. 

And UC3's multiplayer is certainly not average. It's very good, not perfect but still very good. The beta did not play like the full game, so you are judging it unfairly.

Edit: And wow, I had totally forgot about this article. What a flamebait! He's trying to push his opinion on his readers: "I'm telling you that Mass Effect 2 is better than Uncharted 2. I need you to accept this. "This and the "Where in the world is Gran Turismo?" article really points out how this site works.

I'm sorry but that is complete and utter bogus.

Mass Effect is developed by a completely different Bioware studio than Dragon age. ME2's story may not have been quite as good as ME's but it was still among the best of the best and ME3's story looks just ridiculously awesome.

And how many times do I have to go over this with people? ME3 is going to have much better RPG aspects than ME2.

It looks like they are taking the best aspects of ME and ME2 and putting them together along with even more amazingness. ME3 is going to be out of this world good.

Mass Effect as a series is gaming nirvana.



mantlepiecek on 28 October 2011
yo_john117 said:
pezus said:

I'm sorry but if recent Bioware games are any indication there's no way in hell that ME3 gets a 10. And a perfect story?? WTH, ME2's story was just bad (while the storytelling was pretty good), gameplay was uninspired, repetitive mini-games etc. etc. 

And UC3's multiplayer is certainly not average. It's very good, not perfect but still very good. The beta did not play like the full game, so you are judging it unfairly.

Edit: And wow, I had totally forgot about this article. What a flamebait! He's trying to push his opinion on his readers: "I'm telling you that Mass Effect 2 is better than Uncharted 2. I need you to accept this. "This and the "Where in the world is Gran Turismo?" article really points out how this site works.

I'm sorry but that is complete and utter bogus.

Mass Effect is developed by a completely different Bioware studio than Dragon age. ME2's story may not have been quite as good as ME's but it was still among the best of the best and ME3's story looks just ridiculously awesome.

And how many times do I have to go over this with people? ME3 is going to have much better RPG aspects than ME2.

It looks like they are taking the best aspects of ME and ME2 and putting them together along with even more amazingness. ME3 is going to be out of this world good.

Mass Effect as a series is gaming nirvana.

There wasn't much story in ME 2 anyway. There are only 3-4 story related missions, everything else is like unimportant story-wise.

Story telling, like he said, was top notch. The way the story was told, voice acting, character acting etc was amazing.

Even if DA and ME are developed by different studios, you would be surprised by the similarities between them. Miranda and morrigan are both pretty similar characters.