MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Michael-5 said:
Well if you keep up with Seeces Year Over Year Holidays Sales Tracker thread, you would see that 360 is actually holding weekly sales almost exactly on par to last year. Ever Novemember there is a CoD game, and MP games do help 360 more during the holidays then PS3. Even if Kinect isn't as big as last year, I think the 360 will have a strong Novemeber. PS3 will be strong too, but Novemeber is when Americas region sales start to inflate, and 360 is king in Americas by a long shot.
why does history have to repeat its self?
ok so we have COD for MS, FFXIII-2 for PS3, BF3 even with the 1943 game and BF special edition console only on PS3; 360 has BF3, Sony has UC3 and bundle, Sony has 2 bundles for black friday, MS has the Sky Rim bundle, Sony has an RPG bundled console i have no idea wht the name is for Japan and the EMEAA i think, PS3 has 4 different colored consoles for the EMEAA and Japan, and a pricecut made just a few months ago that could help carry it through Nov.-Dec.
Sony has pulled out all the stops and it still looks damn even to me! COD doesn't come out the same wk UC3 does i think so PS3 will have that wk and PS3 should have the first wk of Nov. aswell.
i can give 360 the 2 following wks unless one of those wks have FFXIII-2 in it then its farely even. then black friday is anybodies guess. then the final wk of Nov. should see things balance out before Vita hogs the spotlight in Japan and Dec. becomes a quite memory with bg sells for both consoles for christmas presents and most of Jan. holds PS3 as the eading consoe until ME3 comes out then the 360 takes the next 2 wks and likely half of Feb. until the 14th when Twisted Metal comes out. then the wk after that on the 22 PSVita comes out in the states and it flys off shelves and then by the end of March Sony continues its trend of out selling the 360, gets a boost in America from that same JRPG i still can't remember the name of in the Americas and the EMEAA and then PS3 continues to out sell the 360 till E3 as the big3 make there announcements and we all get together and do this again next yr during the holiday season and someone gets proven wrong, right or what ever.
i guess histroy will repeat its self. Sony shuld announce a new slim modle PS3 and maybe a pricecut to continue to stay competitive againts the 360, but PS360 will do bad next yr with Wiiu coming out! isn't that what we all expect to happen?
I know PS3 outsells in the combined EMEAA and Japan region, but you are ignoring half the gaming world in that comparision. My point by saying 360 is outselling PS3 in the combined Americas and EMEAA is to show you that PS3 will never rapidly reduce the lead. The lead 360 has will only be chipped away at slowly thanks to Japan, that's my point.
so your saying i'm ignoring half the market? monkey see monkey do! it seems Mr. monkey we both ignored half the market!
So people who think PS3 will surpass 360 in 2012, they are just wrong. I don't need to be an analyst to show you that.
hey they may be right? why not let them think it? the blind leading the blind into the lake of fire. those who see blindly leading themeselves into the lake of fire. those saying it will happen and those saying it won't happen will both burn in the fire
both sides are so busy saying what will and won't happen they don't see the fire underneath where they sit.
ok look at it this way. the only 2 exclusive heavy hitters coming out next yr as of today that i knoow of are Halo4 and Twisted Metal.
TM is nowhere as big as Halo but out of all 10 of the PS3 titles i know about this is the only one that has brand recognition. the Last Guardian will likely sell 1m units or more before the yr is out but it will not carry th PS3 through Nov.-Dec. and it can't compet with Halo or COD, but with 7 of those 10 yet to be annouced and lots of unknown factors next yr is a toughone to call.
i bet your wondering where i get all these analogies from? its a gift lol!
I agree with you anything can happen. I'm just being realistic and basing this off what I see. PS3 can surpass 360 in WW sales, but if it does, it won't happen for a while.
i've already prjected it to happen in 2014 if sells continue on there current path, meaning even if sells drop WW for both consoles PS3 would only have to sell 1m+ units more then the 360 until 2014. how likely is that to happen? well considering many are looikg at history in this thread then hell shoudn't the PS3 continue to out sell the 360 by 1m units every yr?
i still look at MS discontinuing the 360 in 2013 but i can see it may not happen then, but they will want to focus on NB so like the Wii and PS2 before it the 360 looks to be abandoned by MS. all current features will stay and anything new the NB gets including downloadable games i can see the 360 getting aswell but MS will likely want to move on and make the NB be the platform for there base as they look to win next gen which is a very likely thing to happen IMO.
LOL Bats....Batman can see all the time. you for got about the episode where he actualy turned into a bat. yes i have a counter for everything.
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side note: GT5 will likely get bundled with a rumured new slim PS3 modle so EMEAA sells will pickup for sure next yr if this happens.
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Why does history have to repeat itself? Well for the first 8 months the trends set by the last few years have been true, why would it stop? Japanese sales tend to be strongest in July (Golden Week), September (Holidays) and DecemberJanuary (Usually a strong release). EMEAA is strong all year round, with a decent boost in the holidays. However Americas explodes in the holidays. 360 will gain significant sales WW in Novemeber/December just because in Americas 360 nearly outsells PS3 2:1 and in November Americas literally becomes more then half the worlds sales.
Bundles only boost sales for a single week, and by 100k max (since most are limited to 100k). Both PS3 and 360 also have an even number of good bundles.
MW3 and UC3 are different types of games. Only way they can hurt each other is by fighting over media space. However after the PSN Outage, I think MW3 for PS3 won't impact UC3 sales much.
Is the JRPG you are thinking of "Tales of Xillia"? For your long distant future calculation, you forgot that Mass Effect 3 and Future Soldier come out the same week at the end of March, and both have Kinect support, and are franchises which are significantly more popular on 360 then PS3.
Anyway, It's nice that you have thought about future sales on a weekly depth basis for the next 6 months. You know what to expect from the market, and although I disagree, I respect your opinion. I think 360 leading sales for the HD consoles WW almost every week after BF3 comes out. The only weeks I think PS3 will outsell 360 are UC3 week and FFXIII-2 week in Japan (December something). After christmas, 360 will likely crash. Not as hard as last year because MS will be able to supply the demand this time, but PS3 should go back to WW leading by FFXIII-2's release outside of Japan. After that I can only say that ME3 week 360 has a chance of topping PS3 WW, and after March 2012, I don't really know what's coming out. The only major AAA exclusive announced so far is Halo 4, so....
Anything can happen, but it's good to share opinions.
I don;t think PS360 will do bad next year with Wii U coming out because most Wii U games will just be upscaled PS360 games. Wii U will get a lot of attention, but I think PS3/360 will each top 10 million in 2012. Sony will have 1 major franchise exclusive, and MS already has a proper Halo sequel.
I didn't ignore half the market. You are missing my point with that excluding Japan comment. Obviously PS3 is doing better WW then 360, I am just saying it's limited by Japan, and we shouldn't expect the PS3 gap to shrink any more then Japanese PS3 sales.
Twisted Metal is not a heavy hitter. A typical TM game sells 1 million units each, and the franchise is a reboot at this stage. Also, coming from a TM fan (own all of them except Head On), I don't think the new one will be all that inspiring for old fans, or new ones alike.
2014 is a respectable prediction. If it happens, I think 2014/2015 is the year. I personally don't think it will happen. I think the net growth PS3 has over 360 this year will be 500k (meaning it will shrink from 1 mil to 500k in the next 2.5 months), and I don't think either console will sell that different. Who knows 360 may even come ontop one more year.
As for 360 being discontinued. There is no evidence to support this claim. MS supported their XB1 longer then Sony supported the PS2 (XBL was up until last year for XB1 systems, the PS Network adaptor for PS2 was taken down much earlier). If it generates cash, and the PS3/Wii are still on the market, MS has no reason to discontinue the 360. It just makes them look bad.
Batman can still see himself as a Bat, and all time.
As for GT5 bundle, I disagree here. GT3 was the only mass bundled GT game. GT PSP was never bundled despite it's weak sales in 2011 outside of Japan, and GT4 never saw bundling either despite the age of PS2 at the end.
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