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Rainbird said:
Immortal said:
The price point is surprisingly impressive, but I'd imagine it comes down to software. As much as some might love Sony first party, it's as good as irrelevant compared to Nintendo's. Even third parties don't compare so I'd think that Nintendo really needs to do little more than launch Pokemon, Mario Kart and 2D Mario, all of which are practically inevitable, to win this.

I still see 3DS beating Vita by more than DS did PSP, but I've been wrong before, :O.

If Capcom puts Monster Hunter on Vita, and Call of Duty becomes a big hit on it too, then you have two extremely heavy hitter franchises working in favor of Sony. Nintendo isn't in the clear here.

And what's your definition of winning by the way? Outselling the Vita? Outselling the DS? Having two thirds of the marketshare between the two?


Historically, the kinds of games that have been successful on home consoles and those that have been successful on handhelds are quite a bit different ...

Monster Hunter is the perfect example of this being that its sales on the most popular home consoles of two generations (PS2 and Wii) were fairly unimpressive, while its sales on a relatively unpopular handheld were very strong. At the same time, first person shooters have seen remarkable success on home consoles and (typically) very poor sales on portable systems.

While it may seem counter intuitive, a game that might not get that much respect when it is announced (Brain Training, Animal crossing, or Mario Kart) could easily be far more important to the success of a handheld than many of the games that people would "drool over" on web-forums (Call of Duty).



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M.U.G.E.N said:


you do realize apart from the games announced that there are over 150 devs working on PSV titles right? Not saying they will all complte their projects or w/e but Vita has the support..LOTS of it

Most of whom have never been heard of. And yet almost none of those developers have so far bothered to name a single title. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.



I love handheld gaming and I want it to succeed. But I think we have problems. I have a friend who is a casual gamer as the most, yet sometime ago he decided to buy a PSP over a ds. He loves his psp. This morning I told him the price of the PSV thinking that it would make him happy. His answer was that the PSV at 250$ was too EXPENSIVE. I was shocked cause as a veteran gamer I think that the price of the PSV is really good. I listed him all the things that the PSV has and how powerfull the Handheld is, and them he told me that both the PSV and the 3DS should not be more than 200$. I Think that the mass market is not ready for this new generation of handhelds. What do you think? I already have the 3ds and I will get the PSV down the road.



Yeah when you saw the ps vita gameplay then you realised how dated the 3DS looked. Same prices and with PV you get what you pay for.



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HappySqurriel said:
Rainbird said:
Immortal said:
The price point is surprisingly impressive, but I'd imagine it comes down to software. As much as some might love Sony first party, it's as good as irrelevant compared to Nintendo's. Even third parties don't compare so I'd think that Nintendo really needs to do little more than launch Pokemon, Mario Kart and 2D Mario, all of which are practically inevitable, to win this.

I still see 3DS beating Vita by more than DS did PSP, but I've been wrong before, :O.

If Capcom puts Monster Hunter on Vita, and Call of Duty becomes a big hit on it too, then you have two extremely heavy hitter franchises working in favor of Sony. Nintendo isn't in the clear here.

And what's your definition of winning by the way? Outselling the Vita? Outselling the DS? Having two thirds of the marketshare between the two?

Historically, the kinds of games that have been successful on home consoles and those that have been successful on handhelds are quite a bit different ...

Monster Hunter is the perfect example of this being that its sales on the most popular home consoles of two generations (PS2 and Wii) were fairly unimpressive, while its sales on a relatively unpopular handheld were very strong. At the same time, first person shooters have seen remarkable success on home consoles and (typically) very poor sales on portable systems.

While it may seem counter intuitive, a game that might not get that much respect when it is announced (Brain Training, Animal crossing, or Mario Kart) could easily be far more important to the success of a handheld than many of the games that people would "drool over" on web-forums (Call of Duty).

And I agree completely, and Nintendo has some very strong portable IPs that aren't highly regarded on the internet, but with regards to first person shooters, things could very well be different this time.

The Vita is the first portable that can rightfully hold FPSs comparable to those on home consoles because of its controls, and while the demand is still unproven, a full Call of Duty experience on a portable is not something that should be taken lightly. What if you can play with PS3 gamers on it? Maybe it will have some designs in place that make it well suited for portable play as well.

I think there is potential in this, and while history seems to disagree, this is also the first time in history where something like Call of Duty Portable can compete with its home console brethren.



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sensebringer said:

I love handheld gaming and I want it to succeed. But I think we have problems. I have a friend who is a casual gamer as the most, yet sometime ago he decided to buy a PSP over a ds. He loves his psp. This morning I told him the price of the PSV thinking that it would make him happy. His answer was that the PSV at 250$ was too EXPENSIVE. I was shocked cause as a veteran gamer I think that the price of the PSV is really good. I listed him all the things that the PSV has and how powerfull the Handheld is, and them he told me that both the PSV and the 3DS should not be more than 200$. I Think that the mass market is not ready for this new generation of handhelds. What do you think? I already have the 3ds and I will get the PSV down the road.


As a Canadian, after years of paying far more than Americans, I personally don't see a problem with $250 for either system but I am starting to think that it may be too high in certain markets especially for certain demographics. I have seen households that own 4 Nintendo DS systems, but at $250 per system I couldn't see many people willing to spend that kind of money to buy multiple systems; and many people will (possibly) live without or share systems.



just adding to PSVita games, IGN said they saw Ridge Racer (although this was virtually guaranteed :P), and Oddworld is also coming to Vita this holiday season

 

here is the list of the 150 developers who are supporting PSV- this list includes Rockstar.. which means only one thing



i think 3ds will excell in sales over vita, but vita as a platform looks much much better



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PS Vita is a great handheld, BUT.... apart from the price, PS Vita has nothing exciting/new

we've seen the graphics on Ps3/Xbox360, they are nothing new, even on a small handheld

3DS on the other side has the most accessible 3D on the market and when combined with Nintendo's games it will crush PS Vita one way or another....

I think it's Nintendo once more!!



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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
PS Vita is a great handheld, BUT.... apart from the price, PS Vita has nothing exciting/new

we've seen the graphics on Ps3/Xbox360, they are nothing new, even on a small handheld

3DS on the other side has the most accessible 3D on the market and when combined with Nintendo's games it will crush PS Vita one way or another....

I think it's Nintendo once more!!

The rear touch pad is completely new, both in smartphones and in dedicated gaming devices.

In the portable space, having two analogue sticks is also a gamechanger. Playing with two analogues instead of one can make a huge difference.

And compared to the 3DS, there are a few differentiators as well.

1) Sony's AR is much better and doesn't require AR cards.

2) The 3DS doesn't have touch on its mainscreen.

3) It's got 3G.

4) It has several ways of connecting with the PS3, and we're already seeing that being used extensively. The 3DS doesn't really do much with the Wii.