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Silver-Tiger on 22 March 2011
HappySqurriel said:
Galaki said:

IMO. Nintendo is just out of the loop from competing. They are now going for halfwaygen of MS/Sony.

Nintendo is at a great advantage in that, they can release a system that actuall do 1080P @ 60fps instead of the current half HD systems.

They won't be outdated neither since we aren't going anywhere beyond 1080P for a very very long while.

That means, even MS/Sony release their systems in 2015, they are still stuck with 1080P and cannot have the graphical advantage even they are 3 years late.


There is another approach (that would be difficult to make work) that I thought about with Pachter's constant talk of the Wii HD ...

It is entirely possible to architect two systems so that the same game that plays at a resolution of 720p @30fps on one system will play at a resolution of 1080p @60fps on the second system. Obviously the second system will be more expensive, larger and use more energy but that shouldn't be a problem with this strategy. The idea is to release the 720p version initially and release the 1080p system 24 to 36 months later.

The strength of this strategy is that the visuals produced by modest hardware at 720p @30fps today will be difficult to surpass in just a couple of years with reasonably priced hardware if you boost your output to 1080p @60fps; which means that your system could release 'today' and still be very visually competitive with your competition's system released 2 to 3 years from now.

The weakness is (obviously) getting third party publishers to buy into the idea without convincing gamers to wait until the 'real' system is released.

I can't imagine Nintendo releasing the same console with two different spec setups. Even the 40GB/60GB PS3 models were confusing for the costumer, and they only differentiate in Backwards Compatibility.



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DélioPT on 22 March 2011

Holding back to 2015? Doesn`t seem like a smart idea for any company involved and i doubt one of them wouldn`t try to get an head start on the competition.
Can Wii last until 2015? 10 years seems too long for a console that didn`t get serious 3rd party support till this point.
Will Xbox360 or PS3 last 10 years? I don`t really see the core market supporting them and new consoles from both companies. Nor can they last 10 years if Nintendo releases a new console.

But the most important aspect of introducing new consoles seems to be this: all of them (Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360) will lose appeal over time and with the growing mobile gaming market doesn`t seem a good decision to make Wii, PS3 or Xbox 360 last 3/4 more years - even with price cuts - without giving the console market a breath of fresh air.
Look at 3DS. Nintendo  tried to make it versitle as too appeal as many people as possible. All three companies can`t risk to become outdated.
New consoles will come sooner than later.



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kitler53 on 22 March 2011

nintendo seems quite happy with the stratagy of realeasing under-powered hardware now-a-days.  i expect the GCX4 (lolz btw) to be on par hardware wise with the ps360.  might even mean they pick up some third party support.  also would mean as a side effect the ps360 would have their lives extended.

imo.



Nintendogamer on 22 March 2011

2015 is a tad late to release a new system, if the nextbox and next playstation are out in 2015 then Nitnendo should release teir new system in 2013.



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Wyrdness on 22 March 2011

No company is going to wait to 2015 if their competitor has released already, for Nintendo's next console I can see it launching in 2013 to give them enough time to get last remaining games like DQX out.



TomaTito on 22 March 2011
Joelcool7 said:
nikosx said:
Galaki said:

IMO. Nintendo is just out of the loop from competing. They are now going for halfwaygen of MS/Sony.

Nintendo is at a great advantage in that, they can release a system that actuall do 1080P @ 60fps instead of the current half HD systems.

They won't be outdated neither since we aren't going anywhere beyond 1080P for a very very long while.

That means, even MS/Sony release their systems in 2015, they are still stuck with 1080P and cannot have the graphical advantage even they are 3 years late.

I think Nintendo won't go beyond 720P. 1080P@60fps would make the new Wii too expensive.

Miyamoto commented saying the next Nintendo console would be full HD. He never said 1080p but since both 360 and PS3 are doing it I doubt Nintendo would hold off. Also the price wouldn't be as high as you think, Nintendo has been spending like half a billion dollars in R&D every year since Wii launched. They are bound to have found a way to produce pretty next gen visuals at an offordable price.

I bet Nintendo could release a 1080p 60-fps console for 275.99$ the price Wii launched for in Canada. But don't forget Nintendo said they would provide an experiance not found on any current console and that it would make your jaw drop. So HD obviously isn't enough Nintendo must be up to something.

I was talking to the manager of my local EBGames and she said the managment at EBGames after she went to E3 last year. Is apparently pretty sure Nintendo is going to go for glasses free 3D on a regular TV. She said Nintendo experimented with it with Luigi's Mansion and that the technology is their.

Of course I don't think the manager of EBGames knows what she's talking about. But Nintendo will do something that revolutionary next gen. Also 3DS shows Nintendo may be willing to price future consoles alittle higher then they used too. But I'd still expect a lower price then the competition.

(Man I'm derailing my own thread lol) back on topic does anyone think Nintendo could hold out another 4-years?

The Nintendo Oz can still be 3D, although they  could stream the content to the 3DS screen for people who don't have 3D TV's,  maybe they introduced the 3DS to increase adoption rate of 3D. Like they have commented before, 3D is nothing new to them.



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NoirSon on 22 March 2011

At latest Nintendo will drop its console successor in 2013. But if they hope to save themselves (at least in Japan), they will need to drop Dragon Quest X by mid 2012 and have roll of pretty decent games to sandwhich that release.

 

If the 3DS does well, Nintendo can survivie on and tolerate flagging Wii sales in Japan, especially since like N64 it seems more popular in the larger market that is the US, but no way could they maintain past 2013, which itself is pushing it. I seriously suspect something out by later 2012.



Vanstorm on 22 March 2011

I believe that Nintendo will release the Wii 2 at the end of 2012, the latest 2013 as no matter what they will always stay the market leader anyway and shouldn't be in any rush to give up that position. Microsoft just did a re-launch of the 360 and a $500 million marketing campaign on Kinect. The next Xbox will release at the end of 2013 at the earliest only if Nintendo releases the Wii 2 in 2012. If not then defiently 2014, the same goes for Sony. The need to milk the PS3 for as long as they can. In any case, the 360 and PS3 are very future proof and viable products long into the future. Even with a new Wii on the market, they still should be able to hold their own for a year or two. Three years though is out of the question.



DavidValbu on 22 March 2011

No way, Wii graphics today look like crap so imagine how they will look in four years time. It's been very painful for me to be waiting for a Zelda game for 5 years to just sit and watch those unpolished cell shaded graphics. I want Nintendo to have HD graphics next year!