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kylohk on 15 May 2010

^But still, would you really sell your "free gift"?

I'm the sort of guy that keeps free gifts as cannon fodder to give away during birthdays, Xmas, etc.



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Slimebeast on 15 May 2010
nen-suer said:
In our Customs gifts should never be sold or given as a gifts for others

He shouldn't have accepted it if he didn't want it ,but hey.... that's just us
i have the right to judge him

Yeah you sure do, man!



Wonktonodi on 15 May 2010

I can understand feeling a bit hurt. You're gift wasn't just like buying someone with a system a game and then they sell it or trade it for another game latter. You didn't just give him a Wii you were giving him and other the ability to play games you have that you could lend them. Or knowing you could bring a game and some controllers over and play. It's easier to do that then bring a whole system over.
But I'd say instead of focusing on not being able to play wii games there with them. Try to get him to get ps3 games you'd want to try. I'm sure there are a few. :)



nen-suer on 15 May 2010
Slimebeast said:
nen-suer said:
In our Customs gifts should never be sold or given as a gifts for others

He shouldn't have accepted it if he didn't want it ,but hey.... that's just us
i have the right to judge him

Yeah you sure do, man!

I thought u edited my post, but you didn't

i meant to say "i have no right"......guess my finger typed my true feelings



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Imphamis on 15 May 2010

He must be a witch to do such a tatic............................................






BURN HIM!



 

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Kasz216 on 15 May 2010
kylohk said:
^But still, would you really sell your "free gift"?

I'm the sort of guy that keeps free gifts as cannon fodder to give away during birthdays, Xmas, etc.

If nobody wanted a Wii?  Hell yeah. 

Not that I can see that actually happening... it's not too hard to find someone who would actually want and actually use a Wii.

How are you going to keep a free gift for canon fodder for birthdays and such if nobody wanted it in the first go around?



MasterZack on 15 May 2010

Your cousin is a jerk.



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amp316 on 15 May 2010

So you won the Wii at Brunswick and then you gave the Wii to your friend? Now he's selling it and getting a PS3?

Maybe he's getting it for the Brunswick Bowling game that's compatible with the PS Move.

Sometimes it all comes full circle.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 15 May 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I cannot blame your friend. Sony has made the Wii a non factor for me this gen. Nintendo has lost all connection with me. They brought me into this style of entertainment as a child, but Playstation and Microsoft have been keeping me in it. I could care less if Sony copied, because they proved their point about what a hardcore system does and no one can really defend Nintendo. This E3 is do or die for Nintendo....plain and simple.

Unless you play games... not to say there are a shit ton of games out there to try out and play, but there are a shit ton of games out there to try out and play.  Really there has never been a time where one console has made another a "non factor" any way you go about it you're gonna miss out on games, and if your hobby is gaming... then you're missing out on your hobby. Hell I had the Atari Jaguar, the console has like 2 good games on it cause it had such a short lifespan, but its 2 games I got to play and enjoy so my time was well spent. 

Honestly whenever I hear anyone trashing another console cause of one of the competitors made the said console not worth it, I simply see someone trying to justify a purchase of one rather than the other to people who simply don't care, and I hear "derp derp derp" going through my head whenever they're speaking, its the oddest thing.

I guess this all boils down to perspective my friend, so I'll spell it out. The Wii does have a "shit ton" of games out there to play, but an increasingly large amount of them are shovelware. Because of Sony's strictness with quality control I am already expecting Move titles beyond the Wii and thats the way I like it. I like to expect more as things evolve. As I've said in the past, I liked to play COD: WAW with my friends on the Wii, but thats on my friends Wii. I was planning to get a Wii when it came out with enough games that I wanted to play, but Sony basically filled the gap with a preliminary showing which I feel is superior to almost anything the Wii has out aside from a handful first party titles. The Move is basically a Wii-mote on crack and with the camera adds depth to the picture which the Wii cannot replicate unless they gather a camera themselves. It's not just about graphics for me, but that also helps paint the picture, especially if a shooter is involved. I never realized how great the possibilities for a wand shooter was on the Wii until a third party title like COD: WAW and with the PS3...I see that as a non-factor. Mod Nation Racers has replaced Mario Kart for me as a figure of taste. If I want Mario, I'll just create him.....and the scary part is......you can.

I'm not trashing the Wii, but I am stating how I feel growing up with Nintendo and feeling let down. (Example of trashing the Wii: The Wii is a POS!) The OP asked for a comment about how people feel about the situation and quite frankly cannot blame nor condone the way the situation has turned out.

To conclude with another perspective, I mainly talk to older people and the majority of my friends are in their late 20's. I will narrow them down to the friends who actually have the Wii, because the others just don't care for Wii titles unless it's a party game. I have a friend whom is 28 and has saved for a very long time to buy a house so he will not have to have an apartment. Everytime he sees us playing a 360 or PS3 he attributes his purchase to only having the Wii so he could focus on other things in life. He literally told me that if he had a PS3 or 360 he would either have to stop buying games for a long time (which is hard for him if he only has a fork out $60 or less for games after the console purchase). He knows Nintendo is lagging with the games he likes and finds that as a positive so he doesn't have to game. Yet...on his free time I see him at my friends house whom is 26 playing on his PS3 like a mad man (LOL you should see it). 

All my other friends who own the Wii and mainly play it for shooters like the game I previously mentioned were floored when they saw the GT Socom showing back home. These guys are not casual gamers by any means. They have game nights two times a week and play regularly on their own.

I go to an art school for illustration (but also dabble in graphics) but also trains furiously in animation and videogame development which has mainly PS3 and 360 owners and everyone games. The Wii owners admitted that they have been reduced in their free time to playing Tatsunoku (which is a lot of fun) and Brawl as multiplayer titles. When a PS3 or 360 party starts the room is filled. The gamers who create games has no time to play games, but because of the little money they have people swap games and they find it to be in their best interest when they have free time to swap PS3 or 360 games. This brings me to the time I had my paradigm shift about the Sony move, when gametrailers sent a flurry of Move videos our way actually showing us the possibilities. Being a students in a art/technological school, we obviously have to test this product to come up with a final idea, but from what we saw....purely as far as the core in gaming is concerned....its pretty much over unless Nintendo changes the game plan. PC is also the main thing everyone has in their room of course, but I am speaking of consoles. 

Are you somewhat starting to understand my point or at least the perspective?

 

P.S.

You also must admit the excitement is added for the possibilities knowing Microsoft and Sony are hugely behind 3rd parties. This means more quality titles.

Man I got about to "increasingly large amount of them are shovelware" and man...

*yawn*

None of this is about perspective, I'm not even bothering with the rest of your post, I'd rather like to know you wasted your time writing it than I did reading it cause within the first couple of lines you used old, used up, faulty logic that I can't be bothered to point out for another time. 

Simply put there's games, good games, 3 and a half years worth of backlog that the Move doesn't have, if you want to deny that to yourself, go ahead, but it's not like the world cares and people are just going to call you out when you state such things.

I showed three perspectives. One from me, friends who own the wii and the perception of the Wii at my dorms. I'm basically bringing you into my world to understand and those around me so u can understand I cam coming from. If a person doesn't understand another persons perspective you're doomed to butt heads forever. Ignorance is bliss. 



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 May 2010
theARTIST0017 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
theARTIST0017 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
c0rd said:
strunge said:
Jordahn said:
strunge said:
Fededx said:
How could he sell something that was given to him AS A GIFT! That's rude...

it is far less rude than the gift giver believing that the recipient must hold onto it forever. 

 

but that distracts from the main point that if you are disheartened because someone has lost interest in a product you enjoy and prefers another, you may have severe emotional problems that need to be chekced out because such personalizing of a brand to that extent isn't healthy and is beyond the normal realm of brand allegiance.

Very nice.  It seems everyone who disagreed with the person who sold the Wii doesn't really know what a gift is.

no, it is clear they are the ones that do.  you're the one who needs to do a simple oogle search on gift etiquette, it is perfectly acceptable for a recipient to return a gift, or even sell it. 

This isn't just a standard gift, you're missing the context. It goes like this:


*OP wins a Wii with cousin nearby*

"Cool, I have two Wii's now, but I'm fine with just owning one. Whatever will I do with the second one... Oh! Did you want one, cousin? You can have it, then. Enjoy!"

"Yeah, cool. Thanks!"

*cousin takes the Wii home and sells it*


You're trying to tell me that recipient isn't an asshole?

The Wii was given under the expectation that the cousin had more use for it than the OP did. That is the only reason why it was given away (and since the recipient was there when it happened, he knows this). In a world where you can expect these kind of gifts to be sold back like that, we wouldn't give them out in the first place. It'd look something like this:


*OP wins a second Wii*

Cousin: Aww, damn! Lucky you! I wish I had a Wii.

OP: Actually, with this, I have two Wii's now. I have no use for this one though. Hmm...

Cousin: ... *looks hopeful*

OP: Yeah, I've decided. I'm sellin' this bitch! Need me some weed money!


Also, being disheartened because your cousin, friend or whoever does not share your interests does not equate to "severe emotional problems." Seriously, what the hell are you talking about? As far as I know, most people get along better when their interests are more aligned. Just look at this very website, the social groups tend to be segregated based on game tastes.

People really take this anti-fanboyism thing to crazy extremes, this thread is a perfect example. Everyone has to pretend like they have no attachments to their hobbies, and it's bullshit. If my friends all lost interest in video games, that'd be horrible, because I couldn't talk to them about it, would no longer play games with them, etc. Replace "video games" with "Nintendo games," or any other interest and you have a very similar situation.

Technically his cousin isn't an asshole. He's done nothing wrong. For instance, which is worse....selling or trading away a gift you paid for and thought they would like or a gift you got for free and thought they would like? Truthfully.....it probably cost him less than a dollar to get it. He should be proud because he saved his cousin 300 on a console whichever way you slice it. The smile on his cousins face should suffice. A gift is meant to be given to either help or please the one you give it to....it's not done for your own intentions.

well I wouldn't call my cousin that he's family but the gift had sentimental value to all the people in his family that played it and to me who gave it to him in the first place. Shoot there were Mii's on there. He didn't even ask if i would care. I didn't even find out until I asked him about it.

I empathize with you on an emotional level. On a level of understanding the concept of gift giving it may seem selfish on his part, but technically whatever he has now is because of you and your gift. What he has now is what he considers your gift. If it was a gift for the family then I would understand, but you stated that you gave it to him. It's not like PS3 wont have the capability to produce something for the family that they can create and enjoy, especially with the preliminary titles of the move. 

PS3 does not replace Wii

Maybe in your mind, but in your cousins it does.