Out of curiosity: would it be a similar, smaller, or bigger gap than 7th to 8th gen? I know it's hard to speculate without the other specs, but you know what I mean. xD I think a proportionally similar gap would already be awesome.

I'm not surprised about potentially seeing multiple XB devices. With PS5 talk clearly picking up early this year already, I wouldn't put it past PS to purposely be leaking info to misdirect MS as much as possible. With Phil and his promise to offer the most powerful hardware going forward, if PS can manage to also launch multiple consoles, or launch ever so slightly later with more performance, with a subsidy for an affordable price, it'll be an arrow straight through the heart of XB fans.

Without having to purposely wait to see what PS5 is exactly, to make sure Scarlet is more powerful a year later, XB would either have to highly subsidize the console at launch, or offer at the very least a base and high end SKU. This way the high end unit can be $499 or $599 or $999, however powerful they need it to be, to be able to make sure they can say they have the most powerful hardware on the market.

The more PS can make XB think that the PS5 launch is imminent (because starting next gen too far behind is just as bad), the more likely Scarlet performance won't match PS5, if the truth is that PS5 isn't coming until around late 2020 regardless. If PS can force MS to build a console that is spec'd as high as reasonably possible for 2020, even though XB might move up the launch closer to late 2019 if they can, if PS just plans to hold off anyway and make a 2021 level PS5, and let XB wait to launch holiday 2020, then PS can most likely move up the launch to the same time or even say march 2021, with better specs at a similar price, and have the power advantage once again.

Unless Scarlet is going to have a super high end SKU for $999, or if PS has simply decided starting next gen off asap and getting a lead is their best bet, XB is going to have a tricky time making sure they have the strongest hardware period.

Personally at this point in time, I think what would make the most sense for XB overall would be a $199-$299 streaming box, $299-$399 handheld/hybrid that does 1080p/60 docked, and a $499-$599 4k/60 home console.

Considering how MS and pretty much every other developer have been very vocal about how it is not viable for them anymore to start from scratch every generation (and how much MS has been pushing BC), I would say their new machine is NOT gonna be a new arquitecture, rather a more powerful interation of their existing one.

And considering that by then the X1X is gonna be ~$299 and the X1S ~189. This new console is gonna be their new "premium" machine at $499 with maybe 15-18TF. Which basically means that games are gonna run on the three consoles at different settings.

I want a handheld with Xbox one S capable graphics at $400, play anywhere capability. And a base console capable of good mixed reality. That is the ideal hardware for next gen. I love my Xbox for travelling between places during the week, would be cool to see them drop a handheld device for the first time, I would buy that and use my PC to go along with it for Microsoft titles.

Really everything Microsoft is doing right now works imo, it is quite clear games are going to become more abundant now, I just want a handheld Xbox to play stuff like Cuphead and Forza on the go. Like just plop it down on a table, connect an Xbox controller to it, and just have fun. Would beat having a Switch for me, only because of the controller really. My Switch is a real problem because of the bad controller design.

Awesome! After seeing The Last of Us 2, I can't even imagine what we would see on even more powerful consoles. For the first time I feel like we're reaching a satisfactory point graphics-wise. People were always impressed by the late gen games of last gen, but this is the first time I'm really baffled. We're reaching a shockingly good quality.

Microsoft has to get rid of the original xbox its too weak.

I wonder if PS5 will release at the same time? Or allow Microsoft to have a 1 year lead?

I think this is a big question mark.  MS was pretty clear, a couple of years ago, that they said that they're done with generations.  But, they ave been conspicuously silent on that topic for a while now.  Makes me think they've changed their mind.  

That sounds about right to me.  Personally, I'd probably pick up every-other hardware release in each console family.  

It is very confusing to me as well.  Some clarity from MS is needed before I can seriously consider the purchase of an XBX.  

So Phil made the comment at E3 that the same team who made the X is hard at work on the next gen Xbox. He says he and his team will once again set the benchmark for console gaming.
This to me sounds like they’re planning on going all out on specs similar to the X. This would almost certainly mean another $499 launch price if he does intend to make a beefy system.

Now after the Xbox one, I’d assume they’d want a more affordable console to take Sony on after having lost the price war early on this gen.
But taking into account Phil’s comment, he sounds intent on wanting a very powerful console for next gen, Price be damned

In any case, things are being set in motion and it’s getting interesting regarding each company’s plans for next gen.

I expect 11 teraflop to be the worst-case scenario for the next-gen consoles. Just porting vega 56 to 7nm with a slight clock increase should result to 11TF. But hopefully AMDs next gpu architecture breaks the GCN core limitation. So we could easily see microsoft just double the gpu cores and increase the clock speed, giving us 14-16 TF.

For memory I see no reason why GDDR5x over Gddr6, it's faster and should be cheaper. There will be 3 manufactures for GDDR6 while only one for GDDR5x.

8-core zen cpu makes the most sense for CPU choice. It's just a complete waste of money going higher. An 8-core zen cpu will be about 5-6x more powerful and it's enough. The question is probably will Microsoft/sony use zen+ or zen2 and will hyperthreading be enable.