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Splatoon 2 is turning out great in Japan and I feel like 10 million sales is definitely possible!



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Teeqoz said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

At this rate, it might even reach close to the first year sales of Wii U, PS4 and Vita combined

You are way too pessimistic, it'll sell several 100k a week when holiday comes. It'll destroy PS4+Vita+WiiU easily.

 

Anywho, Switch numbers are very cool to see, Nintendo have definitely improved their stock situation, and demand is still keeping up with supply. Good hold from DQXI, and I'm especially surprised by the PS4 version given the installbase. Might even reach 2 million lifetime including digital. Splatoon 2 is also doing amazing. Its attach rate is already ridiculous and climbing, without even factoring digital. Last but not least, the PS4 is also showing very healthy hardware numbers.

Overall, Japan, while it has faltered from its heights, is still a gigantic gaming market.

I know the Swich can easily do it - but can Nintendo get enough parts in time to ship that number of units? That's why I said might, though I'm confident it will do it, coming up to DS and Wii numbers in their first year

Oh, and if I'm pessimistic, what would Jrnation then be since he only expected double the numbers of Wii U, Vita or PS4?



Kerotan said:
RolStoppable said:
This week is the final confirmation that Switch production is up. What's worth to note is that we are going to see fluctuations in weekly sales as long as Switch sells through its shipments virtually instantly. Something like 60k (last week), 90k (this week), 65k, 85k, 75k, 85k, 60k, 80k wouldn't be surprising, because weekly shipments aren't going to be consistent. When the DS remained sold out through 2016, the weekly hardware sales also fluctuated with swings of up to 30k units from week to week.

Is production up or are they just allocating Japan a higher percentage of switches that previously would have went to other regions?  NPD data and the availability in europe would suggest this is likely.

NPD data is from July. In Japan only the last two weeks the sales were up. I expected less for Switch in NPD, because I assumed 20% up for two weeks, so overall 10% up. Switch clearly outperformed that. This thread is already august and has another production increase. So we still have to see if NPD will also be up.

I agree on europe though, seemingly demand is (barely) met for some time now.



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Another great week for hardware in Japan. Really nice to see the industry so strong over their. There is no doubt about mobile devices being the go to in the region though. The evidence has been solid on that for quite some time.

It would be really nice to see Sony go at the market one more time with a mobile device that actually gets solid support. Seeing how well the 3DS and Switch are selling, their is absolutely no doubt, that a 4G PS4 Phone, would absolutely reshape the landscape in Japan.

I really hope that Kaz can deliver on the One Sony vision. If he can merge their mobile unit into the PlayStation division, Kill Xperia, and Drop Android, they could build a much stronger userbase around their own PlayStation OS. They are barely selling 10 Million Xperia devices world wide. A solidly supported PlayStation 4 Phone could nearly reach those numbers in Japan alone seeing the success of the Switch/3DS, and the massive amount of added value a device with even more support and function would bring.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Teeqoz said:

You are way too pessimistic, it'll sell several 100k a week when holiday comes. It'll destroy PS4+Vita+WiiU easily.

 

Anywho, Switch numbers are very cool to see, Nintendo have definitely improved their stock situation, and demand is still keeping up with supply. Good hold from DQXI, and I'm especially surprised by the PS4 version given the installbase. Might even reach 2 million lifetime including digital. Splatoon 2 is also doing amazing. Its attach rate is already ridiculous and climbing, without even factoring digital. Last but not least, the PS4 is also showing very healthy hardware numbers.

Overall, Japan, while it has faltered from its heights, is still a gigantic gaming market.

I know the Swich can easily do it - but can Nintendo get enough parts in time to ship that number of units? That's why I said might, though I'm confident it will do it, coming up to DS and Wii numbers in their first year

Oh, and if I'm pessimistic, what would Jrnation then be since he only expected double the numbers of Wii U, Vita or PS4?

The way I read Jranation's comment, I thought he was expecting it to double the WiiU, Vita and PS4 combined. Which seems a tad on the high end but I could honestly see it coming close if Nintendo could ship enough units.



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Teeqoz said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I know the Swich can easily do it - but can Nintendo get enough parts in time to ship that number of units? That's why I said might, though I'm confident it will do it, coming up to DS and Wii numbers in their first year

Oh, and if I'm pessimistic, what would Jrnation then be since he only expected double the numbers of Wii U, Vita or PS4?

The way I read Jranation's comment, I thought he was expecting it to double the WiiU, Vita and PS4 combined. Which seems a tad on the high end but I could honestly see it coming close if Nintendo could ship enough units.

Wii U, Vita, and PS4 combined AND doubled is about 7 million as of 52 weeks. Unless Nintendo has been secretly producing enough consoles to sell 4.5 million in the holiday season alone, that seems doubtful.



Gemmol31 said:
right now switch ahead of 3ds by 125k on week 24 being on the market

And it looks like the Switch might be able to compete with 3DS post price-cut. This is crazy.



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StarDoor said:
Teeqoz said:

The way I read Jranation's comment, I thought he was expecting it to double the WiiU, Vita and PS4 combined. Which seems a tad on the high end but I could honestly see it coming close if Nintendo could ship enough units.

Wii U, Vita, and PS4 combined AND doubled is about 7 million as of 52 weeks. Unless Nintendo has been secretly producing enough consoles to sell 4.5 million in the holiday season alone, that seems doubtful.

Eh, I just took a quick glance at the graph and saw all three platforms selling about a million after 52 weeks. So all three combined times 2 would be six, and coming close would be 5.5, which wouldn't be impossible if Nintendo could ship enough units (which they can't).

 

That was my reasoning anyway, but it clearly falls apart upon further analysis.



Kerotan said:

There are people comparing Switch to consoles they shouldn't.  The only thing Switch should be compared to is 3DS + Wii U.  I've always maintained that. Comparing a hybrid to just a handheld or just a home console is infact moving the posts. 

I hjad a WiiU and a 3DS. Well, multiple 3DS actually. How many Switch do you expect me to get? Comparing Switch-sales to combined sales is interesting, but if it activates exactly the same userbase as these two, you should expect the Switch to sell less. Well, interesting is if different user-bases can be reached though.



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guiduc said:

Combined sales

Switch - 87,798
3DS - 45,730
PS4 - 42,462

Thanks for this, makes it easier haha