Damn, all of this because people are too ignorant to get a PC.

I thought consoles were about ease of use, too bad that's not been the case since PS2 era ended.

You know, buy a console, plug it in, put in a disc and play.

http://equityarcade.com/2015/10/13/6-advantages-that-consoles-had-over-pc-but-lost/

People are mistaking what it is, its a device that can play 4k video/movies perhaps, certainly not games. Dont know why people are thinking its possible that its a 4k gaming machine.

You're the only one being ignorant. Why do you care what people choose to buy? It's not hurting you.  All you do is complain about consoles. I see you all over youtube, "peasant" this "peasant" that. Get over it kid.  Your stay on this site will be very short if you keep it up. This isn't youtube, you've already been banned twice and you've only been the site for like 2 weeks. 

But again thats FP16 and not 32....

and those X1's in the android TVs use more than 20 watts of power each.

So your looking at 1.15 Teraflops (FP32) @40watts+  (from 2 x X1)

vs

PS4 1.84 Teraflops (FP32) @90? watts.

also you know that X1 memory bandwidth is much much lower right?

It cant do 176 GB/s memory bandwidth, without serious rework to the design and memory channels ect that the chip has.

Which would make the chip draw more power than it already does. (or have really bad memory bandwidth and not be able to run 1080p)

Plus the CPU inside the PS4, is faster than the CPU inside the X1 (I think).

MortienGerrux:

read the first few lines of the article you linked:

"This particular beauty is a soldered package that will be provided to cars with not one but two Tegra X1 Chips, for an impressive total of upto 2.3 TeraFlops of compute power on FP16."  -quote.

Its FP16 (which is much easier to do than FP32).
Thats why its number is that high.

PS4 does FP32 when it says 1.84 Teraflops.

Thanks for the explanation. Still pretty impressive and shows that mobile gaming in smartphones and tablets (maybe even super small consoles) has potential for the future. Don't forget a Tegra P1 is coming soon based on Pascal.

Yes its impressive enough.

BUT....

Mobile gaming ? eeerhhh?  you cannot have a smart phone use more than 20watts of power (which 1 X1 does).

This chip is never going to fit into a smart phone (usually need to use max 3watts).

This chip (x1) is too big for a tablet too, which is why the X1s that you see in tablets are underclocked and much weaker than the Android TV console versions.

Potential for the future? no.... X1 was made to fit inside cars and thats about it (and their android tv).

It will be many many years before a mobile phone (3watts) is able to do anything close to what the PS4 does, if it ever happends (laws of physics could make it impossible, if we get stuck trying to shrink proccessing nodes).

I don't think ignorance has anything to do with it. There are a lot of reasons people don't want PC's hooked up to their TV. I had a PC hooked up to my TV for a good two years, but it was such a cumbersome experience that I decided to get rid of it. Here are my reasons why I will always use PlayStation and Xbox over PC.

 1. The PC Tower - A PC that is better than the consoles is way to big for the living room or the bedroom. Even as a hardcore gamer, I just can't justify it being anywhere but the office. Plus I was told by someone very important, that the gaming is fine, but the PC needs to go in the office, or get sold. 

2. The Constant Updates - Even using the PC every day, the thing is in constant need of updates. Steam, Skype, Macfee/Norton, Nvidia's Geforce Experience, GPU Drivers, Windows Updates, EA Origins, and the list goes on, and on, and on. 

3. The Fractured Ecosystem - There is no one spot to get content. Having to have a Steam account, a MS account, an EA account, a Security Software account, all of it is just to much of a hassel, when on Xbox and PlayStation, all I need is the one account.

4. The Controlers - I am not a fan of the K&M set-up. It is great for some devices, but not for most. My preffered controller is the DS4, and at the time I was using it, I had to be teathered to the PC, and run a secondary app. 

5. The Noise - I had a tower with a GTX 760. The thing sounded like I had a box fan all the time, this is a major distraction in slower paced horror games, and watching any video content.

6. The Integration - With PS4 and XBO I can run my entire system on one remote for non gaming applications, this is was not possible when I was using my PC.

7. Very Limited Couch Co-op/Multiplayer -  I know your article stated this as something consoles have lost, but I completely disagree. I have people over constatly playing Rocket League, Street Fighter, MLB The Show, Madden, Fifa, Pixel Junk Shooter, Dead Nation, Little Big Planet, and a lot more.

8. Fractured Online Community- PC just can not compete with the connected nature of PSN and XBL. When I am on PS4 or XBO I can quickly and easily see who's online, and what they are doing. On PC I never know who's on, because, even if they are on, they could be in any one of these fractured services. 

That is why I won't go back to PC. I know how to use the system, and I know their are work arounds to some if not all of the things I listed, but that just means I have to do more work to get to the experience I want. That is something I am not going to waste my time with, even as someone who spends a good part of my time, gaming, playing with electronics, trying out new devices, watching videos about tech, reading about tech, and commenting on message boards about tech. If I am not willing to deal with it, then there stands a good chance that a good number of people that have no interest in the tech, and just want a good and simple experience are not willing to put up with it either.

With that I can fully agree.

To add, I have moved on to laptops, which are even more akward sitting next to the tv with a hdmi cable sticking out of it.
Switching inputs on my amp (to check what's on tv for example) caused windows to change the resolution, crashing a lot of games in the process.
It's just not that relaxing as a PC will always have that work environment feeling.

Maybe a Steam box solves some of those problems, yet why bother, already have a streamlined experience with guaranteed base performance.

But I still don't think a mid gen hardware upgrade is a good idea. That guaranteed base performance will suffer, plus value for money ratio will go down. That last one is maybe not a problem for the hardcore players, yet our low priced hardware depends on the masses buying the product as well.