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So, If Sony stops supporting the Vita, this would be the equivalent of the Sega Saturn, succeding only in Japan?
And if the PSTV is succesful in the west, they won't stop support. They are basically the same machine, I think the games on Vita are goin to abandon the touch capabilities to help the PSTV.



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ganoncrotch said:
Dark Chaos said:
I have never seen Nintendo or MS drop support for a system this quickly. Its a troubling sign.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_boy < 8 months from launch to discontinued

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_vista < 24 months of version updates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64DD < 8 months....

Vita has already been out for 3 and a half years and still getting a nice stream of games all the time. But if you are willing to overlook failures of other companies which bombed more than 6 times faster from release to death can't really argue with ya about it.

I said system.

Vista is a software not a system

The 64DD is a peripheral again not a system

Can't really argue when you think a OS is the same as a hardware system.



Dark Chaos said:
ganoncrotch said:
Dark Chaos said:
I have never seen Nintendo or MS drop support for a system this quickly. Its a troubling sign.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_boy < 8 months from launch to discontinued

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_vista < 24 months of version updates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64DD < 8 months....

Vita has already been out for 3 and a half years and still getting a nice stream of games all the time. But if you are willing to overlook failures of other companies which bombed more than 6 times faster from release to death can't really argue with ya about it.

I said system.

Vista is a software not a system

The 64DD is a peripheral again not a system

Can't really argue when you think a OS is the same as a hardware system.


Lol ignores virtual boy completely and doesn't know what the S in OS means. If you fancy changing the goal posts to consoles then Microsoft has a whole 2 consoles with longer support than the Vita to date, if it stay on the market another 18 months it will pass the original Xbox in terms of how long it was supplied/supported tho.

If you want to reply again tho just focus on how long Nintendo Supported the Virtual Boy, did you maybe just miss those 8 months? They did go by fairly fast.



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ganoncrotch said:
Dark Chaos said:
ganoncrotch said:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_boy < 8 months from launch to discontinued

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_vista < 24 months of version updates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64DD < 8 months....

Vita has already been out for 3 and a half years and still getting a nice stream of games all the time. But if you are willing to overlook failures of other companies which bombed more than 6 times faster from release to death can't really argue with ya about it.

I said system.

Vista is a software not a system

The 64DD is a peripheral again not a system

Can't really argue when you think a OS is the same as a hardware system.


Lol ignores virtual boy completely and doesn't know what the S in OS means. If you fancy changing the goal posts to consoles then Microsoft has a whole 2 consoles with longer support than the Vita to date, if it stay on the market another 18 months it will pass the original Xbox in terms of how long it was supplied/supported tho.

If you want to reply again tho just focus on how long Nintendo Supported the Virtual Boy, did you maybe just miss those 8 months? They did go by fairly fast.

I'll give you Virtual Boy but using Software when I clearly meant hardware releases is pointless.

Also, while the Virtual Boy was a failure atleast Nintendo released its successor quickly after that. Same for MS with Xbox 360 and Window 7 if you want to talk about OS.

Wonder when Sony will announce Vita 2



Dark Chaos said:

I'll give you Virtual Boy but using Software when I clearly meant hardware releases is pointless.

Also, while the Virtual Boy was a failure atleast Nintendo released its successor quickly after that. Same for MS with Xbox 360 and Window 7 if you want to talk about OS.

Wonder when Sony will announce Vita 2


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita#PCH-2000_series_system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita_TV

Since the PSP had 4 iterations the Vita has 3 right now altho the VitaTV hasn't come to the west just yet.

In terms of an actual successor to the Vita it would have to be taken from the market before they'd be considering it I would hope considering the issues the Vita had at launch while the PSP remained strong competition for it in Japan, they won't want their own products clashing again, that cost them far too much.

In terms of naming tho, when it comes to unsuccessfully named systems their names normally die with them, from my understanding win7 is very close to Windows Vista under the hood but the name change was to distance it from the failure and disdain people had for Vista. So yeah I think the Vita name will die with that system when it is discontinued by Sony.

 

 

Sorry bout the tone of my first reply btw, re-readin it there tis a bit more rude that I intended, just a bit of a Vita fanboy regardless of how terribly it does, I genuinely don't understand how it can do so poorly when you consider how great the libraries it has access to (vita/psp/psone) all in one system.



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Dark Chaos said:

Wonder when Sony will announce Vita 2


I don't think they'll do. Sony would need to reinvent the system and turn it into something never seen before. Example. Nintendo sold few Gamecubes against the similar sales of the Xbox and the massive PS2. If they had released, instead of the Wii, the Gamecube 2 with specs similar or superior of those of PS360, it wouldn't have sold that much.

We can see that in the performance of the WiiU and the XBone (there are a lot of reasons for the performance of those machines). The tablet controller of the WiiU and the TV features of the XBone weren't enough to diferentiate themselves, and in a market with similar products, people will go to the most attractive (PS4 will have more games than the WiiU and it has more power than the XBone) of the bunch.

I think Sony should make the Vita lifespam as long as possible. That helped the GameBoy and the PS2.



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ganoncrotch said:
Dark Chaos said:
I have never seen Nintendo or MS drop support for a system this quickly. Its a troubling sign.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_boy < 8 months from launch to discontinued

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_vista < 24 months of version updates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64DD < 8 months....

Vita has already been out for 3 and a half years and still getting a nice stream of games all the time. But if you are willing to overlook failures of other companies which bombed more than 6 times faster from release to death can't really argue with ya about it.

2 and a half years, actually. December 2011 release date, so December 2012 would make 1 year, December 2013 would make 2, and July 2014 would make it a little over 2 and a half years. Going off the western release, it would be a little under 2 and a half years.

Either way, discontinuation would be really strange considering they all just took the 2K shipment. If they were going to discontinue the thing, why would they have just released the 2K over here? Why not let the 1ks dry up, and then not release the 2K at all if they were only going to do one shipment of it complete with Borderlands bundle boxes made just for the occasion?

I think the more logical answer is the bundle sold a bit better than they were expecting. If the sales were as horrible as they were before, it makes sense Sony would've slow NA production of Vitas to almost nothing, so that when a sales frenzy like this happens (by western Vita standards, anyways),  they wouldn't have high enough production to replenish stock.

Sony probably had to decide between spending extra to increase production if they thought this increase in demand was permanent, or do nothing and accept the transitory drought assuming it's only a temporary demand spike. They probably, wisely, chose the latter.



ganoncrotch said:
Kaizar said:

R.I.P. Monochromatic 2D Handheld gaming, unless it's on your cell phone or tablet or Labtop.


That word you are using... I do not think it means, what you think it means.


http://www.google.com/search?q=provigil&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#hl=en&q=monochromatic+3D+converted+2D



Well, it doesn't seem likely anything could turn around Vita's fate at this point. If anything, Sony should be commended for recognizing a hopeless case when they see one; PS4 is doing great, so it's likely they'll want to focus all their efforts/budget on that, instead of on Vita, which hasn't gained any traction after 2.5 years on the market. It only makes sense.



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Dark Chaos said:
ganoncrotch said:
Dark Chaos said:
I have never seen Nintendo or MS drop support for a system this quickly. Its a troubling sign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_vista < 24 months of version updates

I said system.

Vista is a software not a system

Microsoft Kin: 48 days. Better?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/01/technology/01phone.html?_r=0