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Acevil on 16 January 2010
kingofwale said:
considering the continuing failing of first person shooting genre, dispite much hype and developer's dedication (and I'm talking about Conduit)

Does it take a genius in Ubisoft to realize the game probably won't sell like hotcake first party games??


You do know the first crappy Red stee....you know I should not bother anymore.

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Hopefully Red Steel quality wise is awesome, if that is true I will totally pick that up.



 

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pokeclaudel on 16 January 2010

I think they will probably still hope for a million just setting the bar low in case of a disapointment. I still doubt this game will get any marketing push to meet that expectation.



gustave154 on 16 January 2010

Can't imagine kids and families playing red steel together.....
500k sounds reasonable.



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jammy2211 on 16 January 2010

I think the exclusive support for Wii motion plus is where they're worried. The games selling point is with a peripheral which was predominantly bought by the 'Wii Sports' crowd and while they could bundle RS2 with the thing, to me it seems a bit late.

The other thing is these companeis normally have a good grasp of how a title will do before launch. They've got preorders, market research from things like internet searches, popularity on press websites etc and other stuff.

This does most likely mean it's marketing budget will be slashed too, but if Ubisoft's data says the game pre-launch isn't popular, then it may make sense not to blow alot of money marketing the game. Depends how it all adds up I guess *Shrug*.



Demotruk on 16 January 2010
kingofwale said:
considering the continuing failing of first person shooting genre, dispite much hype and developer's dedication (and I'm talking about Conduit)

Does it take a genius in Ubisoft to realize the game probably won't sell like hotcake first party games??

What's with the cherry picking? You chose a low budget new IP from a fairly inexperienced developer when there are many FPS's on Wii that have vastly outsold it. Even Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010 would have been fairer.



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Smeags on 16 January 2010

Red Steel 2 is one of my most anticipated Wii 3rd party titles coming out this year, along with Epic Mickey. I really hope that WM+ delivers, and I love the setting that this game takes place in.

Hopefully the game will do well, but I hope even more so that the game plays well.



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Demotruk on 16 January 2010
gustave154 said:
Can't imagine kids and families playing red steel together.....
500k sounds reasonable.

Do you imagine kids and families playing MP3 together? Zelda Twilight Princess? Super Paper Mario? Call of Duty?



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kingofwale on 16 January 2010
NJ5 said:
kingofwale said:
considering the continuing failing of first person shooting genre, dispite much hype and developer's dedication (and I'm talking about Conduit)

Does it take a genius in Ubisoft to realize the game probably won't sell like hotcake first party games??

Why didn't you choose one of the better-performing Wii FPSs as your example? Like for example COD at 1.40 million?

You don't really have to answer.

 

a CoD game selling only 1.4 million??? To me, that is a massive failure in itself. Much smaller install-based were able to sell much more. This argument is old, look at threads talking about Madden or Fifa games and you will get a sense of this

Much like Wii music, selling millions but still considered a failure.

 

I am happy, for once, that Ubisoft realize this game will not sell too much. Overshipping will destory Ubisoft's profit margin. It's much easier to ship second shipment after selling out the first.



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Demotruk on 16 January 2010

Ubisoft wouldn't be shipping based upon their own projections. They ship based on retailer orders.



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Mummelmann on 16 January 2010

This way at least they have a good chance of overshooting projections. And I think they will. This game could move 750k or even close to a million I think.