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Incubi on 18 December 2009

I remember reading an interview with some SE guy, saying something about them not wanting a single hardware company to become too dominant this generation, thus they would put different key franchises and spread them out between platforms. I believe the original idea for this generation was to have Dragon Quest franchise exclusive to Nintendo platforms, Final Fantasy franchise on Sony platforms and just ignore M$ - until M$ gave them a truckload of cash, that is.

As allways, plans change. But anyone saying SE bet on Sony cause they tought it'd be the marketleader just isnt true.



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HideoK on 18 December 2009

@Sidious

Are you forgetting that its still releasing on the Xbox 360 and PS3 in the US/Europe? The deal for Sony was for Japan only where there are barely and 360's in the market to make it worth it.

Also every main Final Fantasy game has been cutting edge for its time so I think they naturally went to the most powerful hardware when they started development nearly 5 years ago. On top of that every main Final Fantasy since 1997 have been on a Sony console: PS1 & PS2, and sold extremely well so I'm sure that seemed like a logical progression at the time. They were still counting on PS3 selling like PS2s before its release when FFXIII development started. No one knew the success of the Wii before it released.


And like badgenome said, they have released so many PS3 games...NOT. Aside from 2 new PSN games and a few PS1 classics I can't think of a single other Square Enix game released on PS3. SquareEnix sticking with Sony... hardly. I also feel they purposely took longer developing FFXIII so that the market would have more PS3s and 360s sold by the time it released. Hopefully it was to add more polish and quality to the game. Only 3 more months of waiting for me!



badgenome on 18 December 2009
V-r0cK said:
badgenome said:
V-r0cK said:
Munkeh111 said:
@ badgenome, yeah, we have just been bombarded with them. I am looking at my PS3 collection and I can see literally 1 SE game, isn't that amazing (and that is Batman which is only SE because they bought Eidos, and it even still bears the Eidos brand)

Arent you forgetting FFVII & VIII etc.. all those PS1 Square classics lol...Square's sufficating us man!

Classics, my balls. I want Front Mission! Chrono Cross! Bushido Blade! Brave Fencer Musashi!

What? your balls are classic? how old are you?? lol jk... well Square is bringing Vagrant Story so in time im sure all the games you listed will come soon enough =)

I'm not that old, but they are an instant classic. Just ask anyone who's had the privilege!



Jin_Shihouin on 18 December 2009

FF is known for its CG and graphics now.

A numbered title this gen would be strange on a non hd console.



Looking forward to: FF Versus XIII / LBP2 / The Last Guardian / Yakuza 4 / ICO Collection

psrock on 18 December 2009
jarrod said:
psrock said:
nordlead said:
Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.

I think DQX should be on the DS, so far the Wii has shown us it cannot sell has the handhelds, look at MH3 numbers. And, no FFXIII is bigger than DQ, JAPAN is not the world.

 

 

MH3 outsold every PS2 MH.  And actually, DQ Swords on Wii outsold every PS2 DQ spinoff.  I'm not seeing the problem really... I bet DQX outsells DQVIII as well.

FFXIII should've been for PSP.  Then it could've matched PS2 series sales at least...

I am not serious dude, shame on anyone who take this dude seriously.

BTW, every game should be on the DS except shooters.



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nordlead on 18 December 2009
psrock said:
nordlead said:
Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.

I think DQX should be on the DS, so far the Wii has shown us it cannot sell has the handhelds, look at MH3 numbers. And, no FFXIII is bigger than DQ, JAPAN is not the world.

Well, if the Wii can't sell games, then the PS2 must have been horrible, as Monster Hunter Tri- outsold Monster Hunter 2 by 33%. Some franchises sell better on handhelds or consoles, so that would sort of be like saying DS can't sell software because Modern Warfare Mobilized flopped.

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jarrod on 18 December 2009
psrock said:
jarrod said:
psrock said:
nordlead said:
Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.

I think DQX should be on the DS, so far the Wii has shown us it cannot sell has the handhelds, look at MH3 numbers. And, no FFXIII is bigger than DQ, JAPAN is not the world.

 

 

MH3 outsold every PS2 MH.  And actually, DQ Swords on Wii outsold every PS2 DQ spinoff.  I'm not seeing the problem really... I bet DQX outsells DQVIII as well.

FFXIII should've been for PSP.  Then it could've matched PS2 series sales at least...

I am not serious dude, shame on anyone who take this dude seriously.

BTW, every game should be on the DS except shooters.

Duly noted.  I won't be taking you seriously again.

Also, DS is the only handheld that do shooters decently.



badgenome on 18 December 2009
nordlead said:

@joke thread idea

I actually think this is an alt account, but I haven't made up my mind based on the evidence yet, so we'll see.

My guess.



hunter_alien on 18 December 2009
jarrod said:
hunter_alien said:
Well untill FFXIII they didnt release any PS3 games... and judging by the sales of FFCC:CB I think they are happy that they released the game on a Sony and not Nintendo platform

Looking at sales of DQIX, I think they could've done better.

 

 

True, for DQ, tough seeing how a main FF game was allways technically advanced, I doubt they would have gone the DS route. Also, lets dont forget that CC will pass the remake of FF3 next week and it will become the best selling portable FF game ever

 

So yeah, I agree that SE could have choosen the DS/PSP route, but it seems that they decided that a technically more advanced game will be a better option. And teh sales even tough dont have the potential they might have had on the PS2, they will still be strong



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RPG on 18 December 2009
nordlead said:
Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.

Maybe if you say it enough mate, it might actually become true. 

Go on tell me, what "blockbuster" titles would sell better on the Wii in comparison to the PS3? 

Edit - Now you are comparing the PS2 MH titles to MH3 on Wii? Clutching onto straws it seems, the franchise gained huge traction after the MH titles on PS2 released might have to do with it. Also no doubt in my mind DQ X will go on a handheld.