MAG - 3 Million (assuming its as good as SOCOM)

GoW3 - 2.5 Million (Its not as big a series as people think)

GT5 - 9 Million (This generation will break the cycle of the first GT game released selling better. GT6 will be over 10 million)

Ratchet & Clank ACIT - 1.75 Million (better than ToD but not amazing)

Uncharted 2 - 3 Million (Better than the first)

Heavy Rain - 0.40 Million (that'll teach them for trying to be creative!)

InFamous - 1.5 Million (It'll do well for a new IP)

Millenium - Sonys President said they were losing 10% on the each ps3 sold. they sell each ps3 sold for less than 400 dollars. 10% of that is 40. And I was saying that shrinking the ps3 would save them money on shipping because they would be able to fit more boxes of ps3s on a crate

ontop of that im sure sony is hoping for the exchange rates to return to normal. In 06 and 07 the yen was about 120. In 08 it was about 107 until Q4 which then fell to low 90s. Now its high 90s. If it just gains 10 more it would be like a price hike of 40 dollars in the US.

ontop of that all sony will only make money if people buy their product and there is such a thing as price saturation. how much longer than 2 years without price drop can you go?

Yeah they made a slim console before the Xbox. You remember the Vbox slim back in 1999 right?

MAG: 2.1 million

God of War III: 3.5 million

GT5: 9 million

A Crack in Time: 2.2 million

Uncharted 2: 3 million

Heavy Rain: 0.8 million

Actually it'll cost more, but they will make it up by producing loads of them!

Sony will only make money if people buy their product and the product makes money. They won't make anything if they can't sell the PS3 for a profit; they got lucky with their predatory "console as a loss leader" move for two generations, but their luck ran out with the PS3. They need to make a profit on every unit sold, however small, if they want to get out of this hole, and they know this.

There is such a thing as price saturation, but the PS3 has not reached that point. It continues to sell, even if it's in second or third place depending on the region. Surviving at second or third is better than a first-place finish that bankrupts the company, and Sony knows this. Its problem is arrogance, not stupidity. People keep wondering why there hasn't been a price drop (it's been a lot less than two years since the last one, by the way), but there is a situation in which it makes sense not to drop the pric. When you're not making money per unit, it takes a very long time to recover the losses that result from dropping the price even further, and time is not a luxury Sony can afford in its current financial situation. It needs short-term gains, and it needs them immediately, and that means cutting costs without cutting the price.

Besides, as I point out, keeping the price the same across a hardware refresh will not cause demand to nose-dive. It hasn't done so in the past, and it won't do so this time. Releasing the Slim at the same price point as the current PS3 is very safe and relatively profitable, and so that is what Sony is going to do. Is it the best possible move for the PS3 platform? No, but Sony's unique situation means that it has other things to worry about that must take priority, and Sony understands this.

You know if there's really going to be a PS3 Slim for 300$ I'm so gonna buy it just to play Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3 and Gran Turismo. Hell yeah!

PS3 Slim was debunked

Because you say so? That was hardly a confirmation as much as some guy talking out his ass. Would rather believe 2 'insiders' whom have both been correct many times before then some nobody.

The faith is strong in here it seems.

Guess we can only wait and see..