Motivating factors come into effect here. Wii was built with the intention of reaching all gamers, new, old, very old, (threw the trolls a bone with this one) Anything Sony or m$ do on this front is just a reaction to the Wii's initial and sustained success, with the sole purpose of trying to get a piece of that Wii pie. This will not end well for them..I'm lookin forward to Malstroms perspective on this...

Yes, Nintendo has been very successful with Wii Fit, more successful than any other perifiel. Guitar Hero and Rock Band are very successful. But when it comes down to it what does it really change? They might as well be any other successful games. Wii Fit has spawned a couple other million sellers that use the board, but it isn't drastically changing the way companies develope for the Wii. You want this not only to be successful but to change the landscape of the XBox360's library. It is not going to happen.

Secondly. If this is really there answer to the Wii then they are missing something that Nintendo showed them. When Mario Kart came out they could have just said "Turn the remote on its side and pretend it is a steering wheel." Any guesses of how many million copies they would have left on the table had they done that? People need to hold something. It gives them a reference point to orient to, it creates a positive interaction between turns in hotswap play, and mostly it gives the developer all sorts of tools-- sound, feedback.... buttons.

Seriously, if Microsoft thinks it can revamp last gen technology to deal with a deficiency this gen I don't have much hope for them.

Lasped I agree...Also, it feels like its motion just for the sake of motion. Almost like the brainstorming process just looked at "fools waggling a remote" and thought "fools would rather waggle themselves"....not meant to be a sexual pun.

I don't think Microsoft has the developers or capacity for business syngergy to initiate a significant motion-control fight with the Wii this generation.

It took Sony the entire PS1 generation to learn how to make the types of games that were blockbusters on the N64 and improve on them in the PS2 era. Company development philosophies don't just switch at the drop of a dime because they take years to intergrate in the corporate dna.

I agree. You've had this discussion before, however. Remember that back and forth you did with that lady who was playing up the potential of the 360 motion control this gen?

You got a link for that? Good stuff. Very applicable here.

 That's racism brotha. I took this line right out of your OP.

I took it that way for a split second too (the racist thing).

I didn't know so many people were for this motion movement controller thing, but I was also surprised when xbox avatars came and went easily without much bashing.

There is almost nothing MS and I guess Sony can bash the Wii for, they are going to copy it in some form later but slowly, that's the key - gotta ease in the copying. People won't notice it much.

Good idea. But even if it is far superior to the wii mote i doubt it will matter. The wii is a Cultural Phenomenom and it dosnt matter if something is better because the wii is a status symbol

I remember people loving it too...

People tend to overestimate these technology companies, particularly when it comes to Nintendo. I'm not saying this won't work, but aren't you giving it to them a little early? It's unbelievable, that after two years people aren't willing to give Nintendo any credit whatsoever, they've been working with motion controls for a long time, this is new in MS's hands(no pun intended).

I think Malstrom should stay quiet for now.

MS isn't as stupid as people think, they leak this stuff to test the waters.