I think what he is saying - it's a good-looking shooter, but doesn't offer anything extra that other shooters out here offer. The demo is enough to sell most folks on it - but others are like 'I'll wait and see.' And he is correct - most folks WON'T buy a PS3 for KZ2.

I only used the cover system a couple of times on the demo. Anyway Killzone 2 is a very refined FPS but that's all, it's not a "OMG, Teh greatest game of all time" and honestly I can see a lot of backlash for this game after a couple of months (something like GTA IV) I own a PS3, but if I didn't have one I probably won't buy it just for Killzone 2 (I'm not going to buy it anyway)

No, no, the cover system didn't suck, the game on the whole sucked.

I don't think anybody can get through the game without using cover, personally. It's not a run and gun game. I know. I've tried. And that was the first eight minutes of a ten hour game.

@madskillz: I agree with what he says, just not why he says it. Killzone 2 won't move consoles because it does not have a large fanbase, and because it's not revolutionary.

It's not "teh greatest game of all time", nobody except the 360 fanboys is saying this, so they can claim PS3 fanboys said it, and call it a flop.

And this game will have nowhere near the backlash of GTA4.

And if it's a refined CoD4, why not buy it? Who doesn't like CoD4?

Me

 You have to use cover of course, but not the cover system. Played the same as CoD 4; you NEED cover. But not the cover system. Every time I went in cover I still kept getting shot in KZ2, it was much easier to just move in and out of cover without using the the system to simply peek around corners. Plus you can't zoom in cover, and the aiming is broken enough as it is.

Lol, I gotta disagree with your statement about R6V. Its up with gears on my "amazingly fun online game" list. 

What?

SOMEBODY CHECK HIS PULSE!

@Shadowblind:

I thought the cover system was much easier to use. I generally only use it for "chest high walls", because then I can peek over, zoom, shoot, unzoom, and snap back to cover. I just feel safer snapper to a wall than hiding behind it. The latter feels so...flimsy.

And I would say, imo, R6V is the worst FPS I have ever played. You can't see anything! The shooting is awful! It just feels so remarkably unpolished...

CoD4 spoils you

I play the game using the cover, i have no problems with that. I have no problems getting headshots or getting on target.

The problem i have are the controls are too loose with the right stick. When i move the stick i feel like i have very little control over the gun. Which is not what they were trying to do with the game, they wanted to give you a weighty feel and make you play slow and control like a soldier. I don't get this at all.

The two recent shooters i played were BF: Bad Company and Far Cry2, each game gave the character weight and slower controls to show this weight. Each game worked to a degree to accomplish this. I don't get any of this in the KZ2 demo.

And trust me i have tried to love this game, i have played every style and aim setting there is and still no go. To beating the demo in 4mins with a knife to playing far back and going for headshots.

 Almost the exact opposite of my problem. I'm a headshot-psychotic and I have far too much trouble aiming with its system to get any clear headshots. And cover never worked for me, I'm surprised it works for you. Although I do feel like me and my gun don't agree with each other on where to aim sometimes, I don't exactly understand what you mean.

I have both games and I wholly agree. KZ 2 may win me after we get the final version, but right now ... not so much.