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You are forgetting things like LBP ,Resistance 2 ,Valkyrie of the Battlefield ,Wipeout HD ,Fable II and Gears of War 2..........



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shio said:
jesus kung fu magic said:

Third party developers are always better than first party developers. Capcom , epic , EA(just whats left of bioware) ,square , 2k guys , rockstar , bethesda , infinity wards ,valve are all producing top quality games that are over shadowing exclusives. What first party rpg can compete with what comes out of bethesda or square? What shooter this gen can beat what valve and cod 4 have to offer?

Exclusives are always nice but when there is a better game in the same genre that is multiplat it kinda seems pointless to even care about them. Im all for exclusives though but seriously its kinda hard to be excited for them when there are better multiplat games out there

 

It might not be first-party but CD Projekt, Mythic, Blizzard, Turbine, Obsidian, ArenaNet and Turbine studios are all making better RPGs than Bethesda and Square Enix.

- CD Projekt developed The Witcher (2007 RPG of the Year)

- Mythic is making it's own legend with Warhammer Online

- Blizzard is self-explanatory (World of Warcraft and Diablo 3)

- Also Obsidian developed Neverwinter Nights 2, and though NWN2 wasn't so amazing, the expansion Mask of the Betrayer had easily the best game story of 2007

- Turbine Studios also had a great breakthrough with Lord of the Rings Online

- ArenaNet is busy with Guild Wars 2!

 

As for shooters, true, the most of the best ones are multiplat.

 

 To be honest the J man is not big on online games but rpg and online rpg arent really compared to each other alot.Not to say that they are bad but there in another ballpark in what it offers. Oblivion won rpg of the year before the witcher and we know ff 13 is going to be great but yeah your right on one thing diablo 3 has a chance to be better than both these games. The J man honestly wasnt thinking about pc gaming in this thread maybe because pc already has alot of exclusives and those exclusives are alot better than stuff thats for pc and consoles. But with regards to this thread the J man is only talking about the console side but thanks anyway.



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jesus kung fu magic said:

In the J man's opinion, Third party developers are always better than first party developers. Capcom , epic , EA(just whats left of bioware) ,square , 2k guys , rockstar , bethesda , infinity wards ,valve are all producing top quality games that are over shadowing exclusives. What first party rpg can compete with what comes out of bethesda or square? What shooter this gen can beat what valve and cod 4 have to offer?

Exclusives are always nice but when there is a better game in the same genre that is multiplat it kinda seems pointless to even care about them. Im all for exclusives though but seriously its kinda hard to be excited for them when there are better multiplat games out there

 

 

 your right for the most part about RPG's but for shooters:

Sony: Resistance, Killzone, SOCOM, Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted

M$: Gears of War, Halo. And M$ has Fable and Mass Effect for RPG's.

 

I would generally agree with most of what you said though



thekitchensink said:
Yeah, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros, Gears, Resistance, Metroid, Ratchet, Banjo, MGS, Mario Kart, Mass Effect, all don't exist.

 

 they don't exist? they're just a figment of my imagination???!!!

 

Wait...how do you know about these? GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!



Aprisaiden said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
thekitchensink said:
Yeah, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros, Gears, Resistance, Metroid, Ratchet, Banjo, MGS, Mario Kart, Mass Effect, all don't exist.

 

 Your damn right they dont exist.

Seriously the only game there thats the best in its genre is mario and smash bros everything else there is a better game that is multiplat. Im not saying that the games are bad but just not as good as some other games

Really?

 Mario Galaxy is pretty unique.
 Super Smash Bros is its own style/genre
 Name a better cover based TPS than gears?
 Resistance is a AAA FPS game...
 Ratchet - ToD and Q4B are second to none this gen imo... though others might argue Mario Galaxy is better...
 MGS4 - really, a multiplat better than MGS4? and in the same genre? Im sorry but MGS4 is a AAA or AAAA game and it has NO competition this generation.
 Mario Kart - Find me a better kart racer...

 

The first 2 and mario kart the J man agrees

When the J man says multiplat he means third party games because most third party games are multiplats

Gears is still a shooter regardless and so is resistance but valve and cod 4 blow them both out of the water. There good games dont get the  J man wrong but there are far from better than what valve offers.

 You could compare ratchet to portal and we both know which game is better.

MGS4 is only the best in the stealth genre because its the only stealth game this gen (the J man thinks). But to say it has no competition this gen is a little too much. You cant honestly say mgs 4 is better than bioshock or fallout 3 or oblivion or the orange box or Mass effect. The J man knows you love the game and that it might be your favourite game but to say it has no competition is far to strong. In the j mans opinion there are better games out there , a few though.



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jesus kung fu magic said:
Aprisaiden said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
thekitchensink said:
Yeah, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros, Gears, Resistance, Metroid, Ratchet, Banjo, MGS, Mario Kart, Mass Effect, all don't exist.

 

 Your damn right they dont exist.

Seriously the only game there thats the best in its genre is mario and smash bros everything else there is a better game that is multiplat. Im not saying that the games are bad but just not as good as some other games

Really?

 Mario Galaxy is pretty unique.
 Super Smash Bros is its own style/genre
 Name a better cover based TPS than gears?
 Resistance is a AAA FPS game...
 Ratchet - ToD and Q4B are second to none this gen imo... though others might argue Mario Galaxy is better...
 MGS4 - really, a multiplat better than MGS4? and in the same genre? Im sorry but MGS4 is a AAA or AAAA game and it has NO competition this generation.
 Mario Kart - Find me a better kart racer...

 

The first 2 and mario kart the J man agrees

When the J man says multiplat he means third party games because most third party games are multiplats

Gears is still a shooter regardless and so is resistance but valve and cod 4 blow them both out of the water. There good games dont get the  J man wrong but there are far from better than what valve offers.

 You could compare ratchet to portal and we both know which game is better.

MGS4 is only the best in the stealth genre because its the only stealth game this gen (the J man thinks). But to say it has no competition this gen is a little too much. You cant honestly say mgs 4 is better than bioshock or fallout 3 or oblivion or the orange box or Mass effect. The J man knows you love the game and that it might be your favourite game but to say it has no competition is far to strong. In the j mans opinion there are better games out there , a few though.

As much as you could compare MotorStorm to Fable...

Uh, yes you can...but that is third party as well, even though it is (and always will be) exclusive

 

 



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jesus kung fu magic said:
thekitchensink said:
Yeah, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros, Gears, Resistance, Metroid, Ratchet, Banjo, MGS, Mario Kart, Mass Effect, all don't exist.

 

 Your damn right they dont exist.

Seriously the only game there thats the best in its genre is mario and smash bros everything else there is a better game that is multiplat. Im not saying that the games are bad but just not as good as some other games

So MGS isnt the best stealth game in its genre?

Also Mario is the best platformer? Really? Best racer as well?

 



 

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leo-j said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
thekitchensink said:
Yeah, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros, Gears, Resistance, Metroid, Ratchet, Banjo, MGS, Mario Kart, Mass Effect, all don't exist.

 

 Your damn right they dont exist.

Seriously the only game there thats the best in its genre is mario and smash bros everything else there is a better game that is multiplat. Im not saying that the games are bad but just not as good as some other games

So MGS isnt the best stealth game in its genre?

Also Mario is the best platformer? yep.  Really?  yep. Best racer as well?  yep.

 

 

 



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Kantor said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Aprisaiden said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
thekitchensink said:
Yeah, Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros, Gears, Resistance, Metroid, Ratchet, Banjo, MGS, Mario Kart, Mass Effect, all don't exist.

 

 Your damn right they dont exist.

Seriously the only game there thats the best in its genre is mario and smash bros everything else there is a better game that is multiplat. Im not saying that the games are bad but just not as good as some other games

Really?

 Mario Galaxy is pretty unique.
 Super Smash Bros is its own style/genre
 Name a better cover based TPS than gears?
 Resistance is a AAA FPS game...
 Ratchet - ToD and Q4B are second to none this gen imo... though others might argue Mario Galaxy is better...
 MGS4 - really, a multiplat better than MGS4? and in the same genre? Im sorry but MGS4 is a AAA or AAAA game and it has NO competition this generation.
 Mario Kart - Find me a better kart racer...

 

The first 2 and mario kart the J man agrees

When the J man says multiplat he means third party games because most third party games are multiplats

Gears is still a shooter regardless and so is resistance but valve and cod 4 blow them both out of the water. There good games dont get the  J man wrong but there are far from better than what valve offers.

 You could compare ratchet to portal and we both know which game is better.

MGS4 is only the best in the stealth genre because its the only stealth game this gen (the J man thinks). But to say it has no competition this gen is a little too much. You cant honestly say mgs 4 is better than bioshock or fallout 3 or oblivion or the orange box or Mass effect. The J man knows you love the game and that it might be your favourite game but to say it has no competition is far to strong. In the j mans opinion there are better games out there , a few though.

As much as you could compare MotorStorm to Fable...

Uh, yes you can...but that is third party as well, even though it is (and always will be) exclusive

 

 

 

 Umm portal and ratchet are both platformers/shooters/puzzlers except portal puts emphasis on the puzzle and ratchet on the platforming and shooting. Fable and motorstorm?



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!