kitler53 said:
bolded the key part of your entire argument. battle cry of the ps3 fan: "just wait for..." |
It is very easy to call somebody a PS3 fan rather than coming up with a counter argument isn't it.
kitler53 said:
bolded the key part of your entire argument. battle cry of the ps3 fan: "just wait for..." |
It is very easy to call somebody a PS3 fan rather than coming up with a counter argument isn't it.
bobobologna said:
Wait a minute, JRPGs are supposed to give me choices to make? All of mine must be broken. |
Not in-game choices per se, but the ability to customize your character's skillset, choose classes, choose your party, etc.
Folklore, not so much.
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starcraft said:
Logic cannot be flawed and right at the same time. Thats a definitional paradox. The only games website I visit is this one. There were 5 or 6 threads on SO4 in the few days after someone brought the game up, and Sony fans savaged me at the mere suggestion the game could go multiplat. Thats a fair bit of hype. At the end of the day why did MS announce the game on June 10? To interupt the MGS4 release with an announcement a game tonnes of Japanese gamers have wanted for ages will be 360-exclusive. You attack me for quote-mining, but also say I said SE/Tri Ace intended my to watch the trailer on my Zune? At the end of the day the trailer thing was your flawed logic, not mine. Countless people in that thread told me the game was almost certainly PS3 exclusive, and couldn't POSSIBLY be 360 exclusive if the trailer was on the PSP. They were wrong. At the end of the day the PS3 HASN'T shown an ability to sell JRPG's. That doesn't stop being fact just because no good JRPG's are out on the system. In fact thats even worse, because it further minimises the likelihood large numbers of JRPG fans own the console.
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There was a fair bit of hype....here. Anywhere else, that logic is flawed. ;) See what I did there? Flawed doesn't mean wrong, it just means it could be wrong. You said there would be hype before MS announced it. The hype followed the announcement. And it was about which console it was going to be on, not the actual game itself.
You were right, but parts of that logic was flawed. This isn't black and white. There are many factors/variables that go into this. So you were right on some things but flawed in others.
The zune thing was flawed because you were saying you could watch it on your Zune as if SE/Tri-Ace intended on you watching it that way. That's how it was flawed. I also agree, and we said almost certainly. Even you have to admit it seemed very likely at the time. We were wrong, we admited it when you gloated the other day.
You're right, it hasn't, but that doesn't mean it can't. You're saying that because it hasn't shown ability, there is no possible way a hyped JRPG wouldn't do well on the PS3. That's flawed. That's an assumption. You assume a hyped JRPG like Final Fantasy won't do well.
You were right, but the logic wasn't completely backed up. Oh also "At the end of the day the trailer thing was your flawed logic, not mine." You said flawed logic wasn't possible. ;)
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tombi123 said:
It is very easy to call somebody a PS3 fan rather than coming up with a counter argument isn't it. |
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well lets call the 360 the jprg console of the moment then.
It's true, a JPRG console of this generation can only be known at the end of the generation.
Well, the fact the 360 will have 5/6 JRPGs before the PS3 even gets its 1st legitimate JRPG says a lot about the situation...that amount is not excused by the typical "but the 360 had a year headstart" anymore....thing is, whether people like MS or not. they make it known they´re really putting up a fight here while Sony gives the perception (right or wrong, you make the call) they don´t care about competitors 'stealing' everything they can...their 'calm and laid back' attitude is what´s bothering a lot of PS3 owners.
rocketpig said:
Not in-game choices per se, but the ability to customize your character's skillset, choose classes, choose your party, etc. Folklore, not so much. |
I know. But his post implied story line changes (go left or right). And frankly, there isn't a lot of that going on in most JRPGs.
No, ProfCrab literally meant the directions "left" or "right". We've had a few discussions about Folklore in the past.
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Lone_Canis_Lupus said: There was a fair bit of hype....here. Anywhere else, that logic is flawed. ;) See what I did there? Flawed doesn't mean wrong, it just means it could be wrong. You said there would be hype before MS announced it. The hype followed the announcement. And it was about which console it was going to be on, not the actual game itself. Why do you think there's been such massive flamewars the last few days? PS3 fans were pumped for the title, now they won't get to play it. Hang on. Didn't you say SO4 going to 360 was whats pushed you over the edge of getting the console?!? You are the proof of what I'm talking about. YOU were hyped for the game because you thought you could play it on the PS3. Now its not on the PS3, you STILL need to play it so you'll get a 360. You were right, but parts of that logic was flawed. This isn't black and white. There are many factors/variables that go into this. So you were right on some things but flawed in others. Again, definitions. Flawed, logic and right don't fit together. The zune thing was flawed because you were saying you could watch it on your Zune as if SE/Tri-Ace intended on you watching it that way. That's how it was flawed. I also agree, and we said almost certainly. Even you have to admit it seemed very likely at the time. We were wrong, we admited it when you gloated the other day. At NO POINT did I say that SE intended people to watch the trailer on a Zune. All I did was point out that they through in a bid of additional video content, not some ultra-special encoded game demo or something. Sony fans said the trailer on the PSP was proof, I pointed out (correctly) that it wasn't. You're right, it hasn't, but that doesn't mean it can't. You're saying that because it hasn't shown ability, there is no possible way a hyped JRPG wouldn't do well on the PS3. That's flawed. That's an assumption. You assume a hyped JRPG like Final Fantasy won't do well. I haven't once said there is no possible way a hyped JRPG would do well on the PS3. I'm sure FFXIII will do just fine. What I'm saying is that from a publisher's point of view, the console hasn't even begun to prove itself in that genre yet. You were right, but the logic wasn't completely backed up. Oh also "At the end of the day the trailer thing was your flawed logic, not mine." You said flawed logic wasn't possible. ;) It was irony my friend |
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starcraft said:
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I usually do engage with your arguments. Next time you make a 'controversial' thread I will say that to them