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Leynos said:
curl-6 said:

The last time Sony got the most flack of the big 3 was in like 2008 when the PS3 still cost way more than the competition, was still lacking killer exclusives, and was getting mostly inferior ports. Once 2009 rolled around and the likes of Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 rocked up along with a price cut, their rep with internet enthusiast gamers was mostly salvaged.

Since then, Xbox and Nintendo have taken turns at being the most criticised online of the three.

I'd say Xbox was champion from 2013-2026. 13 years undefeated. Sony should be taking the crown now tho

Xbox definitely got bashed the most in 2013 and 2017-2025, though in 2014-2016 and 2025 to present Nintendo also got a ton of flack for first the Wii U's numerous failings, and then the internet's weird obsession with hating on Switch 2.



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curl-6 said:
Leynos said:

I'd say Xbox was champion from 2013-2026. 13 years undefeated. Sony should be taking the crown now tho

Xbox definitely got bashed the most in 2013 and 2017-2025, though in 2014-2016 and 2025 to present Nintendo also got a ton of flack for first the Wii U's numerous failings, and then the internet's weird obsession with hating on Switch 2.

I think the Switch 2 hate is greatly inflated honestly.

There's been misinformation early during it's launch period but that was just down to poor communication on topics like cartridges etc. No different from this. Or other situations like PS5s back compatible uncertainty at launch. When a question mark is put on something, people assume the worst.

A lot of chronically online portion of gamers aren't excited by it's current lineup (fair) so there's disappointment there and that's reflected in attitudes about the system. I haven't noticed much "hate" personally but I have noticed some high sensitivity from Nintendo fans, even in this thread assuming a victim mentality.

When Switch 2 sales dipped below expectations (which they did), there came a doom train where people used it validate their feelings of disappointment, and honestly that weak holiday reflected a reality of middling interest from some of Nintendo's key demograohics but concern there is squashed with software like Pokopia bringing sales back in line with expectations.

Of course plenty are still waiting for their more "core" games and I think is another issue with Nintendo in popular game spaces, they're dealing with expectations from people who are only a small part of their actual target market comparative to Sony/MS.

Some portion of the web will always be complaining about something tbh. I just think Nintendo was just at the center of attention with S2 being new and also relatively conservative with what they showed off for the system/hype.

Last edited by Otter - on 02 May 2026

Otter said:
curl-6 said:

Xbox definitely got bashed the most in 2013 and 2017-2025, though in 2014-2016 and 2025 to present Nintendo also got a ton of flack for first the Wii U's numerous failings, and then the internet's weird obsession with hating on Switch 2.

I think the Switch 2 hate is greatly inflated honestly.

There's been misinformation early during it's launch period but that was just down to poor communication on topics like cartridges etc. No different from this. Or other situations like PS5s back compatible uncertainty at launch. When a question mark is put on something, people assume the worst.

A lot of chronically online portion of gamers aren't excited by it's current lineup (fair) so there's disappointment there and that's reflected in attitudes about the system. I haven't noticed much "hate" personally but I have noticed some high sensitivity from Nintendo fans, even in this thread assuming a victim mentality.

When Switch 2 sales dipped below expectations (which they did), there came a doom train where people used it validate their feelings of disappointment, and honestly that weak holiday reflected a reality of middling interest from some of Nintendo's key demograohics but concern there is squashed with software like Pokopia bringing sales back in line with expectations.

Of course plenty are still waiting for their more "core" games and I think is another issue with Nintendo in popular game spaces, they're dealing with expectations from people who are only a small part of their actual target market comparative to Sony/MS.

Some portion of the web will always be complaining about something tbh. I just think Nintendo was just at the center of attention with S2 being new and also relatively conservative with what they showed off for the system/hype.

Things have settled in recent months as folks got bored and moved on to the next manufactured outrage fad, but the lead up to and months following launch was the most relentless campaign of FUD and hate I've ever seen against a console, as someone who's been gaming since the 90s.

That's partly cos the modern grifter/ragebait economy didn't exist back when say PS3 or Xbox One faceplanted in prior generations, but still, while it's more than fair to be critical of Switch 2, the hate train we saw last year was way out of proportion with anything rational.

That's not being over-sensitive or a victim, (if that was directed at me) any more than it would be to say point out the hate against Sony in 2006 or MS in 2013.

To bring things back to Sony and the PS5 though, the flack they're getting now isn't anything new, it's just their turn in the spotlight due to the recent price hikes.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 02 May 2026

So this thing turned out to be a bit of a nothing burger after all.



curl-6 said:
Otter said:

I think the Switch 2 hate is greatly inflated honestly.

There's been misinformation early during it's launch period but that was just down to poor communication on topics like cartridges etc. No different from this. Or other situations like PS5s back compatible uncertainty at launch. When a question mark is put on something, people assume the worst.

A lot of chronically online portion of gamers aren't excited by it's current lineup (fair) so there's disappointment there and that's reflected in attitudes about the system. I haven't noticed much "hate" personally but I have noticed some high sensitivity from Nintendo fans, even in this thread assuming a victim mentality.

When Switch 2 sales dipped below expectations (which they did), there came a doom train where people used it validate their feelings of disappointment, and honestly that weak holiday reflected a reality of middling interest from some of Nintendo's key demograohics but concern there is squashed with software like Pokopia bringing sales back in line with expectations.

Of course plenty are still waiting for their more "core" games and I think is another issue with Nintendo in popular game spaces, they're dealing with expectations from people who are only a small part of their actual target market comparative to Sony/MS.

Some portion of the web will always be complaining about something tbh. I just think Nintendo was just at the center of attention with S2 being new and also relatively conservative with what they showed off for the system/hype.

Things have settled in recent months as folks got bored and moved on to the next manufactured outrage fad, but the lead up to and months following launch was the most relentless campaign of FUD and hate I've ever seen against a console, as someone who's been gaming since the 90s.

That's partly cos the modern grifter/ragebait economy didn't exist back when say PS3 or Xbox One faceplanted in prior generations, but still, while it's more than fair to be critical of Switch 2, the hate train we saw last year was way out of proportion with anything rational.

That's not being over-sensitive or a victim, (if that was directed at me) any more than it would be to say point out the hate against Sony in 2006 or MS in 2013.

To bring things back to Sony and the PS5 though, the flack they're getting now isn't anything new, it's just their turn in the spotlight due to the recent price hikes.

Not targeted at you, whoever skewed into a double standards thing. All 3 would be treated the same with this type of news and I don't think any get free passes.



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Otter said:

I When Switch 2 sales dipped below expectations (which they did), there…

Listen, I whole-heartedly agree with everything you say… but I will die on the hill that NS2 never dipped below expectations. Nintendo has increased their sales target every quarter, in addition to retaining record sales figures.



firebush03 said:
Otter said:

I When Switch 2 sales dipped below expectations (which they did), there…

Listen, I whole-heartedly agree with everything you say… but I will die on the hill that NS2 never dipped below expectations. Nintendo has increased their sales target every quarter, in addition to retaining record sales figures.

I mean why sacrifice yourself when it's come from the horse itself 

"Speaking to shareholders this week, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa acknowledged that "overseas sales were slightly weaker than our expectations," 

Japan overpower performed, so maybe I should of been more specific 



Otter said:
firebush03 said:

Listen, I whole-heartedly agree with everything you say… but I will die on the hill that NS2 never dipped below expectations. Nintendo has increased their sales target every quarter, in addition to retaining record sales figures.

I mean why sacrifice yourself when it's come from the horse itself 

"Speaking to shareholders this week, Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa acknowledged that "overseas sales were slightly weaker than our expectations," 

Japan overpower performed, so maybe I should of been more specific 

Total Switch 2 sales were never below expectations though; Nintendo's FY forecast prior to launch was 15m units, they sold more than that by the end of 2025 with three months to spare. There's even a good chance they manage to beat their raised forecast of 19m.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 04 May 2026

I personally haven't seen S2 hate, like at all.

I think people are confusing tech analysis with 'hate." Saying the S2 screen blurs isn't hate, but tech analysis, as a quick example.

(33 ms for the S2 per reports, S1 OLED is 1 ms pixel response)



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Chrkeller said:

I personally haven't seen S2 hate, like at all.

I think people are confusing tech analysis with 'hate." Saying the S2 screen blurs isn't hate, but tech analysis, as an example.

That's not what is being referred to; your social media feed may not have shown it to you due to variations in the algorithm, but during the months preceding and following Switch 2's launch, sites like Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc were absolutely flooded with a tsunami of hate, doom and misinformation about how Switch 2 was the most evil, anti-consumer console in history.

It was genuinely deranged, you'd think Nintendo had executed a puppy on stage the way people freaked out.