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curl-6 said:

Nobody's excusing any of that, all that is terrible too. The post of mine you started off by quoting specifically called out that sort of alt-right rubbish.

All anyone was saying was that say bullying people for playing Hogwarts Legacy isn't acceptable either.

I agree that it was stupid(for many different reasons), and I agree that anyone upset by Stella Blade is being unreasonable. Just like there are a lot of people who will be overly defensive about anything like Trans rights etc. people who will attack as a first form of defense, completely sure in their right to do so because of their unwavering belief in their correctness. That’s not helpful in anyway.

In video games there is a clear issue right now though. The problem is that it is a money making business for a lot of people. That is the core driver of so much hateful stuff right now. The people that watch these hateful videos are not really “Right-wing” people either. It’s not really about politics in any traditional sense. The people watching these videos are mostly young, angry people whose anger is being purposefully misused for others financial gains. Why be angry at the injustices of the world, at economic inequity, when you can instead rail against a fat person in a video game, or a woman replacing a man etc. In many ways a lot of the people that get sucked into that world of hate are victims, in the same way people who get groomed into being criminals, terrorists etc. I mean, what percentage of these people watching these videos are autistic etc. These are vulnerable people that are easily suggestible. 



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DekutheEvilClown said:
curl-6 said:

Nobody's excusing any of that, all that is terrible too. The post of mine you started off by quoting specifically called out that sort of alt-right rubbish.

All anyone was saying was that say bullying people for playing Hogwarts Legacy isn't acceptable either.

I agree that it was stupid(for many different reasons), and I agree that anyone upset by Stella Blade is being unreasonable. Just like there are a lot of people who will be overly defensive about anything like Trans rights etc. people who will attack as a first form of defense, completely sure in their right to do so because of their unwavering belief in their correctness. That’s not helpful in anyway.

In video games there is a clear issue right now though. The problem is that it is a money making business for a lot of people. That is the core driver of so much hateful stuff right now. The people that watch these hateful videos are not really “Right-wing” people either. It’s not really about politics in any traditional sense. The people watching these videos are mostly young, angry people whose anger is being purposefully misused for others financial gains. Why be angry at the injustices of the world, at economic inequity, when you can instead rail against a fat person in a video game, or a woman replacing a man etc. In many ways a lot of the people that get sucked into that world of hate are victims, in the same way people who get groomed into being criminals, terrorists etc. I mean, what percentage of these people watching these videos are autistic etc. These are vulnerable people that are easily suggestible. 

We are in agreement on that, that it has unfortunately become a profitable business to peddle toxicity, negativity and hate.

The problem, the way I see it, is that social media algorithms are driven by engagement, regardless of whether that engagement is positive; clicking on a grifter's video to disagree with it or criticize it still counts as a click, so a whole industry has formed around purposefully pissing people off and pushing the shittiest, most toxic takes imaginable because any reaction equals ad revenue.

The whole system needs an overhaul, but of course who is gonna overhaul is when those in power make so much money off the way it is.



firebush03 said:

Why does the internet always have to find something to make a big fuss about? I’ve been stepping away from these really negative takes from people online as of recent, and I must say, my enjoyment playing video games has gone up ten-fold.

Apologies, if I derailed this topic. 

When it comes to games, I love almost everything though. All genres, all styles. Multi-player, single-player. From Visual novels and walking simulators all the way to competitive live-service shooters. I try to offer as little hate as possible, although sometimes my own disappointments might betray my intentions.



Chrkeller said:
Zippy6 said:

That's why I like this site. It's far less political (at least outside politics specific threads) than other forums which lean very left/right.

Very true.  Some of them are really bad.  I posted literally "I don't like politics in my games" when Euro took a swing at Ark Raiders for AI.  I literally got a perma ban from Reset for and I quote "spreading alt right propaganda."  

People are nuts anymore.  

LOL. I mean one could talk about your take is ignorant how politics is basically everywhere, as politics is about everything people care about. So your take is not good as I could point out politics in everything you enjoy. But I get what you mean: you don't like on the nose politics and blatant lecturing in your games.

As I am a german I am reminded of Bertolt Brecht, a german communist writer. He fled the Nazis to the US. Then after WWII the US started to hunt communists, especially in Hollywood (look up Hollywood Ten), and Brecht was questioned about his stances as he was writing scripts. Brecht said he had nothing to do with communism and rejected the idea, than a week later he was on a ship to the newly formed GDR (aka East Germany), a communist country. He clearly was political, even in his writing. But he said, that before you can start lecturing you first have to entertain people. That is what many seem to forget these days.

Anyways, it is insane to ban you over this sentence, if nothing more is there. It is correct the right wing uses popular sentiments like yours (and yes, it is very popular). But that doesn't mean it identifies someone as a right-winger. The right wing jumps on these popular opinions *because* they are already popular beforehand, not the other way around. So the majority holding these opinions is still not right wing.



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Norion said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah politics has gotten ridiculous, whether its Star Wars Outlaws being allegedly woke cos it has a female lead, or Stellar Blade being "misogynist/alt right" cos the main character is sexy, it's always some bullshit with almost every big release now. Some games do deserve it to be fair, but in most cases its just trolls looking for any excuse to dunk on something.

Not everything needs to be about team red vs team blue, but some people are so consumed by fanatical allegiance to their ideology that they see absolutely everything as a battleground where they must aggressively force their views on others. It sucks.

A really annoying part is just how much people like that have infested social media. A few years back you had the latter camp treating Hogwarts Legacy as some sort of purity test to an extreme degree that you had certain streamers getting outright harassed for playing it when no well adjusted person you'd see outside on the street going about their day would get upset if someone they knew played a popular video game. There thankfully hasn't yet been another case as extreme as that since then.

What really galled me about that was a Youtuber I liked (because of their Doctor Who content) made a video calling out people playing Hogwarts legacy especially if they declare themself trans aliies. Then pointing to the backdrop shelf with plushies and saying, that they are aware many of these are made with child labor in poor countries, but it is OK for them to have them, because this person never declared to be an ally of exploited children. That left me speechless. I am fine with people deciding to put their energy only on select topics, but this rationalization was simply insane. I decided I don't want to be an ally to a community that clearly doesn't want me as one and had insane purity tests (I mean I am still for health care for everyone, that obviously includes trans people, but I am not an ally). I can focus my energy on other topics, like child labor. Stuff like this is not helpful for forming an broad societal consensus, you are excluding all the people you *want* on your side.



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DekutheEvilClown said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah politics has gotten ridiculous, whether its Star Wars Outlaws being allegedly woke cos it has a female lead, or Stellar Blade being "misogynist/alt right" cos the main character is sexy, it's always some bullshit with almost every big release now. Some games do deserve it to be fair, but in most cases its just trolls looking for any excuse to dunk on something.

Not everything needs to be about team red vs team blue, but some people are so consumed by fanatical allegiance to their ideology that they see absolutely everything as a battleground where they must aggressively force their views on others. It sucks.

95% of hate campaigns in video games come from the right. Trying to both-sides the discussion is not really helpful. Even a game like Stellar Blade that got some pushback didn’t have any real sustained campaign against it. I didn’t see any review bombing, I don’t think the actress that played Eve got death threats and YouTube is not filled with ragebait videos about it.

I know your discussion with curl came to a conclusion. But I want to add something here. Attacking the fence sitters is never helpful. Fence sitting is the normal reaction to a topic, especially if you don't know much about it. People have complicated life, they cannot invest energy to explore every topic. If I asked you about Unit 731 or Unequal treaties chances are that you never before heard of it and probably don't care much or try to stay out of it. That is normal. Treating the fence sitters not with disdain gives you the opportunity that over time and the people learning more about the issue they take your stance. Attacking them means they are unlikely to ever join forces with you. So stop attacking fence sitters. Sometimes these are people that after a full workweek just want to play a game to relax and really don't want to dive into the topics surrounding it.



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Norion said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah politics has gotten ridiculous, whether its Star Wars Outlaws being allegedly woke cos it has a female lead, or Stellar Blade being "misogynist/alt right" cos the main character is sexy, it's always some bullshit with almost every big release now. Some games do deserve it to be fair, but in most cases its just trolls looking for any excuse to dunk on something.

Not everything needs to be about team red vs team blue, but some people are so consumed by fanatical allegiance to their ideology that they see absolutely everything as a battleground where they must aggressively force their views on others. It sucks.

A really annoying part is just how much people like that have infested social media. A few years back you had the latter camp treating Hogwarts Legacy as some sort of purity test to an extreme degree that you had certain streamers getting outright harassed for playing it when no well adjusted person you'd see outside on the street going about their day would get upset if someone they knew played a popular video game. There thankfully hasn't yet been another case as extreme as that since then.

Which shows how uninformed people can be.  Rowling sold the rights to HP to WB.  The whole thing was silly because they weren't even hurting Rowling - she got her money, they were hurting a new studio.  A new studio that put in a trans character specifically to show support.



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curl-6 said:
DekutheEvilClown said:

95% of hate campaigns in video games come from the right. Trying to both-sides the discussion is not really helpful. Even a game like Stellar Blade that got some pushback didn’t have any real sustained campaign against it. I didn’t see any review bombing, I don’t think the actress that played Eve got death threats and YouTube is not filled with ragebait videos about it.

If you think only the "other side" is the problem, you've drunk you're side's Kool-Aid and you're part of the problem.

Agreed.  Both sides are a bunch of looney tunes, at least here in the US.  

Edit

Not directed at anyone here, but the argument I have seen from the left is "we are less crazy than the right."  At the moment, in the US, that is true, however it isn't a strong selling point.  Cheating on my wife and claiming I cheat less than most people isn't an argument. 

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DekutheEvilClown said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah politics has gotten ridiculous, whether its Star Wars Outlaws being allegedly woke cos it has a female lead, or Stellar Blade being "misogynist/alt right" cos the main character is sexy, it's always some bullshit with almost every big release now. Some games do deserve it to be fair, but in most cases its just trolls looking for any excuse to dunk on something.

Not everything needs to be about team red vs team blue, but some people are so consumed by fanatical allegiance to their ideology that they see absolutely everything as a battleground where they must aggressively force their views on others. It sucks.

95% of hate campaigns in video games come from the right. Trying to both-sides the discussion is not really helpful. Even a game like Stellar Blade that got some pushback didn’t have any real sustained campaign against it. I didn’t see any review bombing, I don’t think the actress that played Eve got death threats and YouTube is not filled with ragebait videos about it.

That's because most people who play games and are just normal folk are now considered "right wing". All it takes is to not agree word for word on some single talking point with the loud left, and in the right wing box you go.

I've been gaming since the eighties and there was never a problem with politics until 2012 or something like that. We did not start this, the lefties came in and started pissing on everything we loved and now we are all here. I guess it was inevitable when gaming transitioned from cringy nerd activity to mainstream popularity and new demographics started pouring in. Mind you, it's not all leftists, just the loudest internet minority, but the internet is such a power multiplier for hot takes that everybody gets dragged into it.



Rumor has it RE5 is getting a remake, I noticed in some comments via Euro.. apparently the game is racist? Lol, jesus.



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